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    Monterey, California
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    Sailing, beer, women.
  1. Polishing stainless welds

    The blue is likely from grinding (or welding maybe) too hot. Try one gentle pass. Gentle and slow so the heat is low. Treat with nitric, or phosphoric acid (not hydrochloric or muriatic). Use fine grits, more acid, then polish.
  2. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    Ha ha ha. Everything will be one year closer to failure.
  3. Replacing standing rigging w/ boat in water

    I did it with the mast up. Deck stepped even. Stood up just fine with only the four lowers (Cal 36). Double spreaders. Kinda noodle-y at the top but it is not going to break, sheesh. Measured each wire Pin-to-Pin with the turnbuckles set as tuned. Lowers can be easily measured while standing. Mail ordered from W-M. Zero issues. Easy. Inexpensive (on the yacht scale). Rod would make no difference. Two trips up the stick...maybe three. I'd worry about a small boat tipping over. Would have to think about stability. That's about it. 80% of marina queen boats have halyards that nobody should even trust to hoist a sail. So a new halyard before going up is an imperative. Not one hanging on a block either...i.e. an external spinnaker halyard.
  4. Pettit Vivid removal options

    SloopJonB - This sander has been mentioned before here. Can you give an example of the "foam backed VS sander polisher" you suggest? TIA
  5. Mexico ...

    Yup. All true about Mexico. (a Leftie)
  6. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    STARFIRE is certainly a nice boat, but does she really "check the box" for a performance cruiser? More performance than other cruisers perhaps but surely disappointing to anyone used to racing in a sporty boat...expecting a thrilling ride...expecting easy light controls. Obviously, I misunderstood the thread's intent. Feeling lonely. Examine that list of gear. Now imagine maintaining each and ever item. Holy crap. There are more than a hundred fussy gizmos there. If their expected life is ten years, which is being optimistic, you can expect several items to go tits up every month.
  7. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    Yeah, if diving is a big priority then you need a compressor, fuel and gear. Which is great. However remaining in this thread's "performance cruiser" category is going to be tough. One thing nobody should try is sailing an overloaded lightweight boat. Way better to be honest with oneself and find a hull to fit the task. One can skip the hot water showers by staying in temperate latitudes. We shower in the luxury of our big cockpit about three times a day. Squeeky clean without being cramped in a tiny cabin shower. Only Americans think hot water is needed for dishes. I suppose we are camping since a modern camper roughs it in a 35 foot motorhome dragging a trailer of toys. Here's a reference point. Since we are in an intensive refit we offloaded every single item not seriously bolted to the hull. Becuase I am a geek I weighed every single piece into a spreadsheet. By everything I mean we took everything we could find ashore. Canvas, loose running rigging, everything. And then one more surprisingly full truckload of even more stuff squirreled away after 12 years afloat. The basic factory SC50 is 16000 pounds on the datasheet. That is a very spartan boat with only luxuries such as footpumps, cushions, nav lights and an icebox. The spreadsheet totals 5200 pounds. That is tanks full...leaving for the high seas. The only toys are an inflatable kayak and the 115 pound, with luggage, mistress. The boat is properly outfitted for safety, sailing, bad weather and communications. Both the water plane incremental displacement and Travelift gauges (adjusted) agreed with this. I would speculate that this is about the limit for performance cruising in this hull. I doubt the designer intended any greater displacement. We were on the boat 11 months of the year. She sails magnificently...like a race boat.
  8. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    I am sure I have no idea what the cruisers here mean by "comfort". Is it the thickness and cost of the bunk cushions? I can think of only one comfort enhancement for the SC50: on starboard tack the nav station needs an outboard cushion. (Working on it.) Minimalist is easier to explain. I focus, laser focus, on my original goals. Which are to go for a long fun sail, experience foreign places, drink in many new bars. Any and every gizmo which does not significantly add to those goals is deleted. I am not doing a gourmet cooking experience so no need for 6 fancy pans. No interest in pampering or becoming flaccid so I skip the tubs, A/C, hot water, bathtubs, power assist gear and drawers full of toys and accessories. Fixing the few things I do have while underway is not so important so I do not have a workshop or any of the usual extra tools but just a basic very minimal tool bag. I don't dislike all that stuff. Indeed, I have all that crap at my fancy home where it is appropriate to the goals I have when there (where displacement is not a concern). I'm not constipated over anchoring worries so I save a great amount of weight there (not to mention saving time on the internet). Deep draft is a concern. I'm at 2.5m (8ft) so there are a few places I won't go. But it hasn't been many. The Pacific destinations tend to be quite deep...until they aren't...then they are too shallow for anything but a dinghy. Your needs will vary.
  9. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    What does "cruising" in quotes mean? Seems like hitting all the popular spots between San Francisco, Mexico, Tahiti, New Zealand, Australia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, Micronesia and Hawaii in the past dozen years should qualify as cruising without quotes. Eating, drinking, sailing shorthanded, and fucking, the whole way. On the wind and off. It was certainly not "racing". We lacked nothing, by the way, as it turns out all that extra expensive heavy gear is absolutely not required. Go light, go early. Cruised until just a few months ago. Presently living on dirt, refitting to leave again in a few months. The larger J boats are excellent choices for performance cruisers. As would the Pogo 50 (pricy though, no?) Quietly sailing while the chunder-beasts are in global-warming mode is the way to cruise. And upwind ability does make a difference. As pointed out above many legs, especially out of the tradewind belts, are on the wind. Often not as much fun off the wind but being able to do it efficiently makes a world of difference. Cruising inside archipelagos is going be a mix of all points of sail: Tuamotus, Thailand, Philippines. Nice to be able to go both up and down the coastal cruising destinations like NZ and OZ. Windward performance, and a sea-kindly nature sure helped bringing the boat 6000nm back to the US West Coast in reachy/noserly conditions without having to go all the way around either the globe or the Pacific.
  10. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    ...and you can save some considerable cash and trouble with this tip: Nearly all the worlds great dive spots have a nearby concessionaire. They fill, and carry, your tanks, show you the hot spots, too, while maintaining all the gear. In Palau Sam's would even pick us up at the remote anchorage. Pretty sweet deal! I carry one tank and minimal gear in my ULDB program. Just for emergencies and bottom cleaning. Another tip: I've noticed the boats with A/C mostly give up on life. There being no A/C yet in the dinghy or at the beach bar or elsewhere they just stay in their comfortable cocoon. Thus the need for all that interior furniture I suppose. No thanks. Etc. Etc. Just some ideas for ya. And just my opinions. Results can vary.
  11. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    You will not find such a short-handed performance cruiser that satisfies those conflicting desires. Too much displacement. Too much maintenance. That's my opinion. I have been delivery crew on such a beast. 65 feet with all the toys, big galley, A/C, power everything. Owners simply had it delivered to each little vacation spot. Sailed around, a little scube diving, the full-time crew couple took care of everything. I and the captain spend weeks repairing a multitude of little thingys from furling hydraulics, to sexy spreader lights, chain counters, dozens of little boxes with intermittent electrical issues. The list went on forever. The delivery of little widgets kept DHL afloat. It did have some performance though as it was carbon everything with a deep retractable bulb keel (when the gizmos were all working). We have far more fun on "camping" on our little 50. Wayyyy more fun. Biggest plus: I do not need to fly home to manage the finances to keep the lifestyle 365/24/7. That said, B.J. Porter's desire to spend two month is the remote Tuamotus would be tough with our program. However as a practical matter buying food and fuel locally, while expensive, pales in comparison to the expense and trouble of a boat that can do such a thing. Generally I find if the locals manage to survive on an atoll we can to. My little brown native girl is quite resourceful. Nor does she need A/C, hot showers or cappuchinos. I have never felt like we were camping: sleeping on the ground and shivering next to a sputtering stove while considering where to dig a latrine....
  12. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    The ULDB's have plenty of room for your storage. But you do not want to use it. At least half my many SC50 lockers are absolutely empty. There is that huge sail storage area just ahead of the mast, and the entire stern volume is only empty fuel jugs and fenders...air. If you fill up the lockers with "storage stuff" you should probably look at a higher displacement boat as you will lose the entire reason for having a ULDB. Those CIGALE's posted above are the right idea. Most of the others suggested miss the idea of racer-pleasing performance. The reason they sit at anchor is they are zero fun to sail. And too much work. Sailing a ULDB is more like sailing a dinghy. Flies upwind in 5 or 25 knots, which is frequent for a cruiser on the move vs. one that languishes in port looking for that elusive "window". I have no power assist except the anchor windlass. Most of the time I have not even had that. The only grunt task I dread is grinding the mainsheet in a heavy air gybe. Small jibs are plenty quick and tack almost effortlessly. It is really to best way to cruise. No extra junk to buy, lug around, repair. Shorts, flip flops, a toothbrush, satphone, a box full of cash, and a few other things. And older ULDB's are cheap to buy compared to the bloated furniture wagons. Who needs all the cherry wood joinery and two heads? There is that old adage that a sailor's boat should be as long in feet as their age in years. Might move up to a 70.
  13. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    It is not length that makes the loads, it is displacement as hinted above. Length is good for stability. As well as low displacement and reasonably narrow beam. I single- and double-hand a Santa Cruz 50 all over the Pacific. I think it is perfect. Seven years now. She is in cruise configuration: windlass, asym, watermaker, dinghy, outboard. Can just lift the main out of the hatch. Sailing loads are low. The biggest headsail is 135% and not hard to lift...but little used as she flies along upwind and down with much less. Same displacement...about 10T as much smaller popular heavy cruisers. You cannot carry all the popular cruising crap even though there is plenty of room: easy to overload. Don't think having SUPs, bicycles, tools, a gazillion spares, etc, would work. But that has not been a problem. Performance boats can be a problem in some areas due to deep draft. But that is rare in the Pacific.
  14. Great video. Shows what is wrong with catamarans: the so-called designers. WTF were they thinking with those helm chairs? One is placed directly over a slippery hatch where she can just barely reach the tiller...and with nothing to hold onto when thing get bumpy. The wheel station looks no better...it appears far from the wheel. And the sailing speed: WTF? My friends tell me their cats always go 14 knots. That was no 14 knots. Another 50 years of design evolution and someone might just make a practical fun cruising cat.
  15. Time to Un-Zip! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee...............

    Now repeat the experiment with what is in the zipper: Aluminum Oxide. Not table salt. Sailing gear with aluminum pulls is no better than garbage...disposable.