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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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  1. thats the Herbie from OTUSA last cycle
  2. Agreed. Trampolines can be had at aftermarket places like http://www.murrays.com/ for a reasonable cost. I still have a crap load of hobie stuff in the garage if anyone needs something. Email me at MrMichaelsen@gmail.com Late '80s boats are some of the heaviest built. My '89 nationals boat was the heaviest boat I've ever owned (and I'm on #6 - all bought new). My 2007 is 8# under minimum. It's a keeper. Haha, well yeah, no shit your 2007 is light. I was referring to the 84' divide and the 70's/early 80's Hobies I've owned (and I'm on #5 - none bought new). Of which the majority of used Hobies for sale on craigslist or available for free generally fall into. I would be pretty stoked to see your 89' national boat on my local CL for a decent price.
  3. The Hobie 18 fleet is making a comeback in CA right now! We just had our opening regatta Hobie days in Avila beach where the North Americans will be held this august. Great regatta, 12 Hobie 18's on the water with tight racing through-out the fleet. People of all experience levels, and a lot of fun being had. 18's are pretty cheap to pick up and get sailing, cost to fun ratio, I don't think they can be beat. If you are new to racing, or have an 18 sitting in your yard, come on out and sail with us! full schedule of racing all over CA: http://www.div3.hobieclass.com/default.asp?Page=7662 Heres a quick flight and video I took before heading out for racing on day two of the boats waiting to head out. 10-15kts with blue skies and little swell, some of the best sailing I've done in a while.
  4. yeah late 80s are good hulls
  5. The video is on Facebook, Peter is tagged in it. On board footage.
  6. Man he is cool. http://www.routedurhum.com/en/s02_corporate/s02p08_cartographie.php almost there
  7. It was a very fast boat. His book describes many examples of that. I think its also easy to see in the frame above the reduced foil surface actually in the water. In his book he also describes many situations while cruising the pacific that indicate the ladder system with its reserve lift is ideally suited for cruising. Such as plowing into a trough running with the sea, and letting the bow pop up on its own. The beauty of this system is it not only provides reserve lift, but it requires no pitch control and has no moving parts. Something that all of the AC trickle down and up tip foils require. Williwaw used a ladder system on the almas (as well as the rudder) to prevent leeway in a very similar fashion to the inward pointed up tip foils that doug has been describing. The ladder system, I'm sure everyone is aware of, reduces wetted surface the faster you go making it more efficient making you faster etc. It also contributes to ride hieght through ventilation like the up tip. His boat only required a few settings of the foil AOA and he would stop and change them by hand to suit conditions. A far cry from the OR72 board control system and optimization available today. The main foil however was a single foil attached at the almas and the main hull, and had brackets which reduced the area of ventilation. It was supported on both sides due to the limitation of the materials available at the time, extruded aluminum, it also rotated up to the bow. Additionally the boat was very thin ply/epoxy, and had an extremely low windage deck. However it had an extremely inefficient rig, and was still able to easily achieve beam reach fully foiling. If you want to make an ocean crossing foiler it needs to be simple and automatic, carry reserve lift, and possess variable lift/drag ratio for take off vs cruise speeds. Something that Williwaw is alone in achieving. Ive always thought if someone were to try again they'd start there.
  8. The way the hull chines curl around is pretty sexy. Looks like you guys are making great progress. What is board control like? This interior is very unique, I really dig it. Thanks for posting info.
  9. Ask and you shall receive! Very cool, thank you for your reply, looking forward to seeing more. Is this a one-off, or is production planned?
  10. I came across this bitchen new tri and haven't seen anything on here or really much about it at all. Looks like its going to be FAST, though only has curved alma boards, doesn't look like much lifting goin on. Still, good to see another fast tri in the works. The designer does some other really cool stuff, and looks like an interesting cross over. Any anarchists in LA want to check it out? http://glform.com/yacht/ GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS: 100% CARBON/ EPOXY VACUUM CONSOLIDATED ON CNC TOOLING LENGTH: 42 FT OVERALL BEAM: 32 FT OVERALL DRAFT: 7.38 FT – 1.85 FT MEASUREMENT WEIGHT: 4200 LBS RIG: 63.68 FT CARBON ROTATING WING MAST W/ SINGLE SPREADERS CARBON STANDING RIGGING SAIL AREA: 1211 FT2 UPWIND & 2061 FT2 DOWNWIND MAINSAIL, TRINQUETTE, SOLENT, CODE ZERO & GENNAKER ANTAL® WINCH & HARDWARE PACKAGE TUFCOTE™ TEFLON ANODIZED GOIOT HATCHES ELECTRIC ENGINE INTERIOR SPECIFICATIONS: ALL INTERIORS EPOXY VACUUM CONSOLIDATED ON CNC TOOLING 3 BERTHS W/ RECESSED CORK SURFACE PRESSURIZED COLD WATER & ELECTRIC REFRIGERATOR GALLEY W/ SINGLE SINK & SINGLE BURNER INDUCTION COOKTOP ENCLOSED HEAD W/ ELECTRIC TOILET & SHOWER 10 SHELVES FURNITURE PAINTED IN HOUSE OF KOLOR SHIMRIN® INTERIOR IN CLEAR COATED CARBON PAINTED & CORK CARBON FLOORBOARDS 50 GAL. FRESH WATER TANK 800 FT2 COCKPIT
  11. This looks great. maybe a little low volume in the bows, with that guy hanging off the transom.
  12. just a little on the ground reporting from SF, Ive watched races from quite a few vantage points along the water, and for the last week there has been a significant amount of people everywhere. I have a shop on Market street, a bit away from the action but still in heart of sf and ive had Kiwis and out of towner Americans coming in all week. Most people in SF might not have known what was going on with the cup when it started but now everyone of my friends is watching, going to the event, going out on boats, texting me questions (knowing i'm really into the cup), and generally extremely excited. Its really cool to see so many people interested in sailing. Ive even had a few friends talk to me about how to get into sailing, whom i never would have expected to be interested. Ive watched the race from the st francis jetty a few times, fort mason pier, the aquatic circle, and pier 39, each have their advantages and detractors, i wish i could have made it to Alcatraz for a race, but i've yet to go to the ac park, well i guess tomorrow is the day! Ive also met quite a few really interesting sailors and made some new friends at each of the venues. So happy for the sport of sailing, for foiling tech to be recognized and furthered, for SF and OR, this cup has been everything i was hoping for and more. I have no idea if OR will keep the cup in SF if they win tomorrow but i sincerely hope they do, because i'm so thankful for the last 3 years of world series racing, going down to the OR dock to watch them launch B1 and B2, and now the AC itself. GO OR
  13. Ive watched previous events from up on the hill and its Ok, trees get in the way. But i watched Sat races from end of pier like i said and it was pretty great. good viewing angles of everything but the finish. Gotta work tuesday, but will have the projector set up! Didnt see the link on Youtube yet, are they offering races 5-6?
  14. Surly, i'll look for you, Im throwing a small party on the pier would love to give you a drink for all your great films. I'll have a white BMW OR hat on.