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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Ah yes, the multiple centreboards ... which one to use ... ah well, it kept the Bethwaites nicely employed (less so Keith Revell) ... although I recall making a hollow one myself from an Australian cedar wardrobe that my parents had deemed as not modern enough for our house ... The bloody thing would probably be worth about $50 000 now ... Indeed it did ate, and on the foils. We had three centreboards IIRC, one huge, one middling and a small one.
  2. Ahh, ok, I recall the Brewers and I'm just wondering if it wasn't a hull by Keith Revell, although the aft tank confuses me a bit, but in those days there were quite a number of people knocking them out. Yeah, Iain was always scribbling away even as a kid, he and Heather (younger sister, who could sail tolerably well, but wasn't really into it and with all the old bollocks that was going on about age limits in those days kinda was a bit of a turn-off ...) would hang around me at The Spit on the weekends and on visits to M&W, so I got to know the whole family pretty well. Al was always under the house tinkering away on bits and bobs, but it was a good dry place where I could put together their masts and rigging for them. Al is still kicking on at 91 (I think), I was meant to get together with them all when I was back in Sydney in March and April, but didn't get the time ... next time perhaps ... I think the last stuff I did for Iain was some masts for the 18s (and a couple for some other 18s) one night in the late 1970s. Five fully rigged 18's masts in a night ... by about 0430hrs I was over it ... but all of them managed to get back onto the water for the next race ... Cheers, Peter
  3. Yeah, that's what I was thinking ... around about the right timeframe for it. I'm a bit baffled by the topper on the end of the pole ... but as 1975 was after my time, perhaps that was "normal" ...
  4. Hi DD, I can't say that I recognise it although the sail nr is relatively early. It has a touch of the early "Bethwaite" about the hull (although a little hard to tell from this pic). The boom looks like one of mine and the mast (if a De Haviland) probably one of mine as well ... or did you make them yourselves? Nice pic headed in towards Balmoral though (coming back from the Bombora mark?) ... Cheers, Peter
  5. Ahhh, ok, I understand ... Another Bob Cherub came to mind as well, Gladys Victoria (for Dixie Wilmot), probably around 1973, although I don't remember much about it because I'd moved on by that stage and I'd left M&W, I certainly don't have any photos, stations or line drawings of that one. I remember making a promotional film in the middle of winter when the Contender first came out, sailing up and down just off Clontarf in shorts and a T-shirt being tea-bagged by the gusty and cold SW breeze whilst Ward (Pally) Austin's wife ran along Clontarf Beach in a bikini waving at me ... Bob always voulnteered me for the best jobs ... Yeah, Rene (Rowena Wilmot) was always a little conservative ... Bucko certainly would've been into it though ... I ran into her and Geoff Davidson (Dixie's crew for some years) a couple of years ago at the RSYS whilst I was doing a ladies race with a mate's wife (Brian Richardson from Australia II) 'cause he preferred not to interfere in her sailing exploits ... Here's a couple more of Hello Goodbye in Auckland, a Swinger (being chased around Middle Harbour by Nick Creech in the middle of winter in a tinnie wasn't my idea of fun, although Craig had a great laugh about it) ...
  6. Hi, as you can probably see, I'm not on or comment often, what is the "Pre Matthews" thread? Which Cherub were you at MHYC? Cheers, Peter
  7. Oh, I forgot about a 5.5 metre for Frank Tolhurst, Kings Cross, Bob gave a half model of that to me at one stage that disappeared from my apartment in the late 1990s or early 2000s ...
  8. Bob designed my Javelin (built by Ian Peden) in 1968 and scaled it down to a Cherub in 1970, two of which were built by Ian Peden for Grant and Karen Simmer (Rock 'n Roll and Boogie Woogie). The photo below at The Spit is of left to right ... me, Grant Simmer, Ian Hobbs and Tony Leahy. When I cleared out my apartment in late 2013, I discovered the line drawings and stations that Bob had done for the Cherub (see below). I still had them because I had made a couple of half models, one of my Javelin, the other for Karen Simmer of Boogie Woogie. My memory isn't what it was, but I think it was Bob that also designed another Cherub (Hello Goodbye) for Mandy Wilmot and I. Jamie Wilmot and I built it as a plug, then took a couple of boats from it for the 1972 Cherub World Championship in Auckland (they were too heavy for anything much than a major blow, well, that and I was crap ...). Just seeing the Swinger mentioned above, I recall teaching Don Buckley (Colour 7) to do the fit-out of them for his after-school job ... I remember doing some fitting out of Tampico II, designed by Bob for the father of one of the apprentice sailmakers, Garry McKenzie, when it was first built (again by Ian Peden if I remember correctly) moored alongside I think Ferguson's Boatshed at The Spit. After it did its first Hobart, I sailed it back as far as Eden with a couple of guys from the Navy where "Mac" McKenzie had some relatives. I vaguely recall the weather forecast was pretty dire for the week ahead and after a tense conversation with Craig Whitworth on the 'phone (If you want your job, get back here now ...), I caught the bus from Eden to Sydney the next day ... and to think that I turned down Alain Colas' offer to sail Pen Duick back to France via Tahiti to go back to Sydney ... idiot. Bob also designed a very early Sharpie/FD like version of the Contender with a tiny jib and a hard chine, we called it the Yellow Submarine (pre-dating the Beatles song) ... absolutely terrifying ... I sailed it a number of times whilst it was stored at Adams' Boatshed at The Spit in the early 1960s, it was eventually sold to the son of the stationmaster at Warrawee in the mid-1960s.