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    Interested in all forms of SAILING not BOATING. Boating is for people who have engines in their boats and no sails. Current passion is racing vintage, wooden metre boats on Lake Ontario.

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  1. Eight Bells - Brian Chapman

    Not only was Brian a sailmaker for Thisbe at one time, he also was a crew member and most importantly a good family friend. I remember Brian when he sailed on his father's boat Rogue out of PCYC. We followed him from loft to loft as he understood what our boat needed and he worked with us to get the most out of our old girl. Brian taught me a lot about sailing and he will be missed. Fair winds Brian.
  2. I am sure that there are marine architects who can back me up on this but the main difference is that the second rule requires the design to be a straight line from the waterline to the bottom of the keel, no hollows. Third rule boats are allowed to have a "fin" with a skeg for the rudder to hang off. If you look at Iroquois the 8Mr, she is the extreme of what the third rule allowed. The 8Mr Raven is an older third rule design and there is a hollow at the front of the keel line. 8Mr Venture also has a pronounced fin for a keel. If you are looking at changing this I believe both the 8Mr and 12's do not allow this change and you would be considered a "Modern" if you do.
  3. 2018 DTS Poole

    A member of a musical group A middle aged actor/actress A current/past head of a country That should about cover any possibility
  4. As expected, there is/are many varied opinions on what and how the CC should be raced and what platform it should be sailed in. I am not going to go down that rabbit hole. What is interesting is that the Melges IC-37 design is very similar to a proposed "Grand Prix" design of the metre boat rule that floated around about 15 - 20 years ago. This modification to a very old design rule was quickly put aside by the membership of various Metre Boat classes (12's, 8,s in particular) and the designation of "12mR" or "8mR" Grand Prix was not allowed to be used. I am not sure if any boats were built using this design but a regatta in San Francisco was proposed using the larger "12mR" version. As mentioned in earlier posts there are elements of the new CC plan that are good. I like that any club with this platform can challenge or defend, and the inclusion of women and youth is also good. I am in favour of using a class with a strict class rule but if the rule is not to be followed then pick another class. When the Farr 40's were used the owner driver rule was not enforced properly. (Pro skippers purchased a share of the boat for $1.00) If the IC-37 only allows one pro, and not in a sailing capacity, then the positive spin is that the CC will promote better local sailors and better competition locally. If an owner or syndicate has to bring in hired guns who are not from the local area then what benefit is left when the pro's leave after the cup? The CC is about promoting sailing, and competitive sailing, on the great lakes. I believe that the Melges IC-37 can accomplish this and the format as laid out so far for the CC, which has the next three regattas all sailed out of the RCYC (2020, 2022 and 2024) is a good start to bringing back the CC as top level sailing event on the Great Lakes.
  5. They host every year, 2020, 2022 and 2024 regardless of who wins or looses. The trophy goes to the winning club.
  6. The Royal Canadian Yacht Club is proposing to use the Melges IC-37 as the next platform for the Canada's Cup. The cup will be sailed in 2020, 2022 and 2024 at the RCYC and is a match race between the USA and Canada. In the past various classes and designs have been used which were all designed to a rule and not strict one designs with the only exception being four challenges in Farr 40's. With the strict class rules already in place for this new class is this the right boat for the Canada's Cup? I like what I am seeing from the behind the scenes pictures of the building of the plug and mold and it will be a great boat for the NYYC Invitational regattas but will it be a boat that develops followers outside of these events? Thoughts? Opinions? I know you have them. http://www.melgesic37class.com/news/2017/9/19/behind-the-scenes
  7. 8 Bells for George Cuthbertson

    George H. Cuthbertson, aged 88, passed away on October 3rd at his home in Toronto, Canada. Cuthbertson was best known as one of the original four founders of C&C Yachts, a Canadian yacht builder that dominated North American sailing in the 1970s and early ‘80s.
  8. Carbon vs Aluminum spin pole

    My 8mR is what they class a "Classic" which means we can have aluminum masts, booms, hi-tech sails, spectra/kevlar lines and carbon poles. The Neptune Class is required to be original as designed with wood spars, booms, and poles; dacron sails and polyester lines.
  9. We have been using a 2.0 unit for the past four years to get our boat in and out of our slip, and to make a one way charge out to the race course if needed. Before that we had no motor or engine. Our boat is a 20,000lbs 1929, classic 8mR and we have it mounted on the transom on a removable bracket. At three knots, in flat water no wind conditions it can go for 6-8 hours on a full charge. Enough to get home from our usual race course. We looked at the 4.0 but the batteries required were twice the size for very little increased distance. We have been on top of regular maintenance and have had to send the battery back to the distributor in the states a couple of times, but we have had very good luck with it. Makes life a lot easier to get in and out of our slip especially since we now back in.
  10. Carbon vs Aluminum spin pole

    Good day. For many years I have done fore deck on my 8mR where, due to a measurement rule, our spin pole is bigger than "J" and hence we end for end during gybes. I have now moved to the back of the bus and our new fore deck wants a carbon pole for reason that don't make sense. Since the pole is supported with a topping lift connected to a bridle, there is no weight of the pole that needs to be addressed during the gybe. A lighter pole might be easier to raise and lower but we have the topping lift on a winch if needed. In addition, the boat weights 20,000lbs so I don't see how a few pounds difference in a spin pole really makes a difference. Is there any performance or other reasons why I should spend the $3500.00 (CDN) for a carbon pole or should I stay with Aluminum?
  11. Transpac 2017

    No. Who, what, where is it about?
  12. Transpac 2017

    Weddell finally finishes. To bad they missed the parities!
  13. Transpac 2017

    Bedford is on board so I expect I will be hearing something shortly after they finish today.
  14. Transpac 2017

    South to Alaska????? Maybe you are giving them navigational assistance?