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  1. They are sandwich construction. Not much glass either side of the foam. Generally the inner layer delaminates from the foam from people stepping down onto the hull (if anyone steps or sits on my hulls they get a mouth full......) The common fix is to drill small holes through the top layer of glass and the foam but not the inner layer of glass and then inject epoxy in to fill glue the inner glass back onto the foam. Works a treat. Its a very common Hobie repair and Im sure there is better instruction somewhere out there on the internet. The aluminium can shims seems popular in the US but here in Australia if you want to be competitive you simply have to have a glued boat.
  2. I love my H16. Its not the fastest, lightest or best handling beach cat around but it ticks all my boxes. Excellent One Design racing fleets pretty much everywhere, great fun to go out for a blast with a mate or a cruise with a lady, and solidly built making it perfect for beach camping. The main issues that you will find are soft spots in the hulls and decks which can cause catastrophic hull failure. Small soft spots are pretty easily fixed with the epoxy injection method. I would be very cautious about adding inspection hatches in the deck in front of the forward pylon as that is a pretty highly loaded area. The rudder lock down system can be a bit of a pain on older boats, but if you spend a few hours tuning it and maybe a few $ on parts should have them working sweetly. Old rigging can leave you red faced when your mast is lying horizontal...... A boat with a glued frame is always better than an non glued boat. Glued boats are much stiffer and handle substantially better. As far as sailing goes, its a pretty simple boat to sail with no modern high tech systems to worry about. If your not racing you can pretty much live by the "pull everything tight upwind, let it all loose downwind" technique. Get used to doing this......
  3. Camping / beach cruising on a Hobie 16 (or any beach cat) is some of the most fun you will ever have. A group of mates and I started out doing weekend trip across Moreton Bay (Brisbane, Australia) to Moreton Island and have now done a number of week long trips to different area's on Australia's East Coast, namely the Keppel Islands and the Whitsunday Islands. You wan't to make sure your H16 is structurally sound (no soft spots) and all the rigging is in good condition. I replace my standing rigging once a year which is probably more than needed, but my H16 is raced hard most weekends and when not being raced just out for a blast or weekend away. Plus I really don't want my mast falling down when I'm 25/30 NM offshore. I store everything on the tramp in dry bags as I don't want to cut holes into my hulls. I can get food, water and gear for two people for up to 2 weeks on the tramp in two medium size dry bags. You need to be brutal with the packing as there is no point taking shit you wont use. I could never bring myself to put a motor on a beach cat, especially the H16 as the extra weight so far back will have your transoms dragging more than they already do. It's amazing how far you can get with a simple paddle, plus its not all that difficult. Many of us carry spinnakers as well so can generally make decent speed even in less than 5 knots of breeze. We sail in sunny Queensland (boardies and a rashie year round) so I can't comment on wetsuit/drysuit options. Sleeping on the tramp in very comfortable. I can get one weeks worth of gear and food (for one person) in that Red dry bag on the tramp. I keep some safety gear and spare parts in the small yellow bag. Never got a drop of water in them even after a complete turtle capsize.
  4. We won't be making it back to the Whitsundays this year but made it to the Keppels instead. We are planning on a Whitsunday trip next April.
  5. They had pretty good conditions for Transpac didn't they? Downwind and they were doing high 20's when ever I looked at the tracker which should mean they are foiling surely? I don't know just guessing? I know they ended up breaking the rudder but they weren't even in the lead at the point it broke were they? I hope they get it sorted and win some races as it is a cool boat, but have to admit it has been very nice after they lost as the LorD of FoilS hasn't been around harping on incessantly (hiding in his own sorrow maybe?)
  6. Hahaha. I find it annoying that I was actually hoping Maserati lose just so we didn't have to hear the LorD of the FoiLs incessantly bragging. Turns out the fIRe aRROw foil system doesn't work on pond toys or 70ft tris.......
  7. Most trimaran's I've seen have a daggerboard in the main hull........
  8. I think mines OK
  9. Good stuff. Im doing a similar thing with my 13 year old racing crew. Design and build project through school as his "mentor". So far we have designed a stitch and glue surf kayak. Construction starts soon. Its actually quite a bit of fun!
  10. Cool boat and looks like fun, but I will remain sceptical until I have one beat me (on my H16) Shorter, (much) heavier, less sail area (upwind) yet faster? Dunno about the good ol' US of A but we Aussies cat sailors would be unbelievably embarrassed if a Weta was anywhere near us (upwind or downwind) I agree they tack nicely but I still sail on a narrow river and have never had any of our 3 Wetas come near me (or the other cats) Maybe US Weta sailors are much better than their Aussie counterparts? And yet the US Americas cup team are all Aussies? hahaha
  11. I struggle to accept this thing will walk away from a H16, let alone a H18 (maybe in a 30 year old boat sailed by muppets)
  12. My local club (in Australia) started offering juniors crew spots/rides on 16ft 3 person Corsair dinghys with an experienced skipper to teach the basics then offered a 3 day training course in the school holidays in smaller dinghys (Sabot's and X3s) to give the kids a chance to get out on their own. Was successfull enough that we now have so many junior sailors and not enough boats for them all.
  13. Not really fair comparing a 45+ year old Hobie 14 to a modern Weta, generally the Weta will beat the H14 (depending on the sailor, I've seen an exceptional sailor on a H14 smoke Weta on numerous occasions, but that was because of better sailing) If we compare the Weta to a modern Nacra 4.5 its a totally different story, the Nacra destroys the Weta convincingly on all points of sail. P.S. I love Weta's, would certainly consider one when Im too old to trapeze my Hobie 16 And thats "fair"? 60 sq.ft. more upwind SA?! 7" longer.... The fact is that a 15' tri designed for speed would beat any cat its own length...... Nacra 4.5: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=4952 Ok so you seem to think it is a better comparison to compare a 45 year old design to a modern one? Look at the prices, Nacra 4.5 and Weta are very similar in price, I guess that means you can get more performance for your dollar with a cat. Why don't you go ahead and build this mythical 15 foot tri that costs the same as a Nacra 4.5 or Hobie 16 and we will see how it goes on the water. Oh yeah, that's right, we are talking about Doug "never accomplished anything in his life" Lord here!
  14. Ive beaten a Tornado a few times in club races, does that mean the Hobie 16 is a faster boat than a Tornado?
  15. Not really fair comparing a 45+ year old Hobie 14 to a modern Weta, generally the Weta will beat the H14 (depending on the sailor, I've seen an exceptional sailor on a H14 smoke Weta on numerous occasions, but that was because of better sailing) If we compare the Weta to a modern Nacra 4.5 its a totally different story, the Nacra destroys the Weta convincingly on all points of sail. P.S. I love Weta's, would certainly consider one when Im too old to trapeze my Hobie 16