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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Good stuff. Im doing a similar thing with my 13 year old racing crew. Design and build project through school as his "mentor". So far we have designed a stitch and glue surf kayak. Construction starts soon. Its actually quite a bit of fun!
  2. Cool boat and looks like fun, but I will remain sceptical until I have one beat me (on my H16) Shorter, (much) heavier, less sail area (upwind) yet faster? Dunno about the good ol' US of A but we Aussies cat sailors would be unbelievably embarrassed if a Weta was anywhere near us (upwind or downwind) I agree they tack nicely but I still sail on a narrow river and have never had any of our 3 Wetas come near me (or the other cats) Maybe US Weta sailors are much better than their Aussie counterparts? And yet the US Americas cup team are all Aussies? hahaha
  3. I struggle to accept this thing will walk away from a H16, let alone a H18 (maybe in a 30 year old boat sailed by muppets)
  4. My local club (in Australia) started offering juniors crew spots/rides on 16ft 3 person Corsair dinghys with an experienced skipper to teach the basics then offered a 3 day training course in the school holidays in smaller dinghys (Sabot's and X3s) to give the kids a chance to get out on their own. Was successfull enough that we now have so many junior sailors and not enough boats for them all.
  5. Not really fair comparing a 45+ year old Hobie 14 to a modern Weta, generally the Weta will beat the H14 (depending on the sailor, I've seen an exceptional sailor on a H14 smoke Weta on numerous occasions, but that was because of better sailing) If we compare the Weta to a modern Nacra 4.5 its a totally different story, the Nacra destroys the Weta convincingly on all points of sail. P.S. I love Weta's, would certainly consider one when Im too old to trapeze my Hobie 16 And thats "fair"? 60 sq.ft. more upwind SA?! 7" longer.... The fact is that a 15' tri designed for speed would beat any cat its own length...... Nacra 4.5: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=4952 Ok so you seem to think it is a better comparison to compare a 45 year old design to a modern one? Look at the prices, Nacra 4.5 and Weta are very similar in price, I guess that means you can get more performance for your dollar with a cat. Why don't you go ahead and build this mythical 15 foot tri that costs the same as a Nacra 4.5 or Hobie 16 and we will see how it goes on the water. Oh yeah, that's right, we are talking about Doug "never accomplished anything in his life" Lord here!
  6. Ive beaten a Tornado a few times in club races, does that mean the Hobie 16 is a faster boat than a Tornado?
  7. Not really fair comparing a 45+ year old Hobie 14 to a modern Weta, generally the Weta will beat the H14 (depending on the sailor, I've seen an exceptional sailor on a H14 smoke Weta on numerous occasions, but that was because of better sailing) If we compare the Weta to a modern Nacra 4.5 its a totally different story, the Nacra destroys the Weta convincingly on all points of sail. P.S. I love Weta's, would certainly consider one when Im too old to trapeze my Hobie 16
  8. Cheers, would be awesome up there in an F28. We shared Whitehaven Beach with a small family in an F24, little more luxurious than a Hobie 16. p.s. Remember you owe me a ride on Boom!
  9. Great report. We had the time of our lives. Will definately be going back next year if your keen!
  10. 2 nights at Dugong Beach, 2 nights at Crayfish Beach and 3 nights at Whitehaven Beach. Whitehaven is the prettiest but Crayfish was the favourite because there are no day tourists like at Whitehaven. Next time we will be ignoring the "official" campsites and beach camping, making it up as we go along. We ate really well considering no ice/refridgeration, various cereals for breakfast, mainly dried fruits and nuts/muesli bars throughout the day, and freeze dried hiking style meals for dinner which are awesome after a solid day on the water. Once you add all that to the camping gear and 40 lites of water that we set out with and my crew and I (134 kg total) the Hobie 16 was well over loaded. No beer, except for the few we bought from the day charter boats at Whitehaven. Ignore my lazy crew having a snooze. All our camping gear, clothes and food was in the red and black bags. Water was seperate in 4 x 10 litre bladders Our campsite at Dugong Beach Sledder and her crew
  11. Crayfish Beach was one of our favourite's, only spent two nights there, could easily have stayed more. Taipan would have been perfect out there. I love my H16 but I reckon a Tornado or Nacra 5.8 would carry the gear better. We will definately be returning next year
  12. Yep, all gear/food/water is stored in dry bags on the tramp. We pack very light!
  13. Here's a short clip of my recent 8 day camp around the Whitsunday Islands on my Hobie 16, accompanied by a couple of Calypso 16's. Perfect place for a beach cat.
  14. Hahaha Doug Lord accusing someone else of being nuts. Get back on your meds mate.....
  15. Pretty dumb statement to be honest. What you are saying is that she is the SECOND full size trimaran to 100% fly. Nobody remembers second.... Your wrong anyway. What about Willawaw, Rave, Trifoiler, Scat, Osprey etc. Would you not consider those to all be "full size" (eg can carry humans, unlike your hoppity hop hop failure model) trimarans? So maybe at best Gitana MOD 70 is # 7. What an asinine, stupid comment!! Maybe so, but you seem to be forgetting your original stupid comment. Would you agree that the above mentioned foiler tris are full size? Or does that not fit with your Doug Lord agenda? I would love to be proved wrong about your failure model, but until we see some decent footage I will stick to my original statement and refer to it as a failure. And that doesn't mean you should re post your current videos, which to unbiased people show a failure, or re post one of your many screen shots, but do some real testing and prove us all wrong.