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    Skiing, SCUBA diving, sailing, vintage cars and motorcycles

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  1. ORR in Long Island

    “Well its a very subjective answer if you ask a PHRF person. Its a very scientific answer if you ask the ORR person.” Umm…No it is not. The question was: “Anyone else think PHRF would give an allowance of 45 seconds for a fixed prop?” I like science and quantifiable numbers. Since you mentioned science and must be an “ORR person”, what, exact SCIENTIFIC calculations/studies did ORR review to grant a fixed blade prop such a kindly rating? A rating to make it SLOWER than a C+C 35 Mk I. You do realize that the Bene’s rating of 0.791 is slower than the C+C at 0.799 – right? Problem is, you’re trying to defend the Bene’s rating when the OP wanted to know if there are issues with ORR. I am trying to show an example of how there appears to be as much subjectivity or more in ORR as there is in PHRF. Until you, or anyone else, can produce some scientific evidence to justify why ORR gave the equivalence of a 45 second slowing in rating because of using a fixed prop to “sub-optimize” the boat, then I will stick with my opinion that ORR = PHRF in subjectivity.
  2. ORR in Long Island

    BYC Mackinac changed to ORR / ORR-EZ this year and not everyone is happy. Some boats got the “kinder” treatment that your Farr 40 did and other boats – not so much. One boat that got your “kinder” rating was a Beneteau First 42 TM. They saw their former PHRF rating of 84 slowed to an ORR-EZ rating of 0.791. Putting that into perspective, the C+C 35 Mk I was rated 0.799 – meaning they are somewhat faster than the Benny. Before going to ORR, C+C 35s used to rate 129 in PHRF. Meanwhile, the Benny’s two sisterships sailed in a different class and were rated 0.852 and 0.845 respectively. The question is, how does this specific Bene First 42 go from 84 to the equivalent of slower that 129 under? This is a difference of 45 seconds per mile. Seems the answer is they changed to a fixed prop instead of folding. Anyone else think PHRF would give an allowance of 45 seconds for a fixed prop? Bottomline, IMHO ORR can be just as arbitrary, if not more so than PHRF.
  3. Irma

    From the link: "We are still assessing the damage, but whole houses and trees have disappeared. Outside of the bunker, bathroom and bedroom doors and windows have flown 40 feet away." Can only guess that the reinforced packaging tape shown in this BEFORE photo did not hold up.
  4. Irma

    Per Sam Branson - son of Sir Richard
  5. Irma

    Their latest report was 17 hours ago where they were "bunkered" down and they still didn't know about their boat.
  6. Irma

    Hope that tape on the windows is reinforced with string.
  7. Irma

    Irma courtesy of Google Earth and a projected heading of 285 degrees.
  8. Irma

    Location of Irma courtesy of Google Earth and a projected path at 285 degrees
  9. Front Page - Wild Wanda

    "...Somebody go below and get the blooper"
  10. Tanker hits Destoyer, how is this possible?

    The collision was at point #2. This was cleared up later in my post #98. Where I said: "The [Japanese] coast guard initially said the collision occurred at 2:20 a.m. because the Philippine ship had reported it at 2:25 a.m. and said it just happened. After interviewing Filipino crewmembers, the coast guard has changed the collision time to 1:30 a.m. In my post above I speculated that the hit was at about point #7. Then, after RKoch’s confirmation of +9 UTC, I agreed that the hit could have been at about point #5 and because of the reported U-turn BEFORE the hit. Now the news of a 1 hour delay indicates the hit was at point #2. This would mean ACX Crystal made the U-turn AFTER the hit while on a constant heading of 68 degrees and going 18.5 kts. That would make for a significant strike." The illustration referenced was BEFORE the one hour time difference when it was initially thought the collision occured at 2:20 AM, instead of 1:30.
  11. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    So what does a Columbia 26 run aground off Cape May, NJ have to do with Rimas?
  12. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Me too. Fiji Times will be wondering why so many hits for today's paper.
  13. Chicago-Mac/Meridian X MOB Recovery

    I have always been leery of my ACR C-Light. It requires the user to manually twist the head of the strobe in a clockwise rotation in order to turn it on or test it. Then you have to back it off until the light goes out. But, if it is turned upside down or the battery giggled, then the strobe would go back on until it lost connection with the battery. So I would back it off a little more to insure it did not go on accidentally and discharge the battery. But, if you back it off too much, then the o-ring might be exposed and leak when immersed in water. Therefore, I upgraded my strobe to an ACR Firefly 2 that has a magnetic, sliding on/off switch and no more "backing off."
  14. You're correct. Seems that CYC does NOT give a complete listing of the Multihull Class results. Firefly has retired, but not listed. Strings and Flight Simulator should be listed as "... not finished" but they are missing from the list.
  15. Now the dropout count is up to 82 boats. Appears that Arete will be the only boat to finish in the Multihull Class. Winds are very light and from Fox Island, past Gray's Reef Light to the Mack Bridge the boat speeds range from 1 to 3 kts.