Pokey uh da LBC

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    Planing Back in the Day

    Not clear if it's being towed. It may be, but the leading car may also be filming the flight, like the guy standing in front of the camera is doing. Either way, it looks to be a fairly serious experiment. Filming such a stunt back in the day would probably be pretty expensive. I guess the real question is, can the horizontal speed generated by a vertical wing/sail, be converted into enough horizontal lift to get a glider airborne. Or does the drag prevent the craft from reaching takeoff speed. Finding the answer would be an fun project for an amateur model builder. Or a simple thought experiment for a properly educated individual (sadly not me).
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    Planing Back in the Day

    And if it worked with that old rig and heavy construction, imagine how well you could make it work with modern tech.
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    Planing Back in the Day

    Pretty cool video from Facebook...
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    Twin Skinned Mainsails?

    Until the August 2 video dropped, I hadn't realized two skinned sails were allowed this go-around. Are the boats currently using this tech? Any good photos showing this design? Is there any discussion of technology trickling down to other boats?
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    J/111 as a Multipurpose Boat?

    Regarding the J/97e: Wow. $180k for a four-year-old, 32-footer is gonna be a tough sell, especially when the OP had his eye on a J/111. It has the sex appeal of a Dodge caravan. The thing just screams, "MomBoat". Me (as an 17 year old): Dad, can you buy me a mustang for graduation? Dad: You'll get mom's minivan, IF you're lucky! And you finally pass calculus.
  6. Hey amFast, my caution regarding the J/111 is based on my own experience moving from a J29 to a Mumm 30 some 15 years ago. My J29 program was tops on the West Coast for a couple of years. We won most of the main OD races and eventually wanted something faster and more challenging.  I looked at faster J boats (J35, 105, and 109) but concluded that they were just too similar to the J29. In the end my overblown ego pointed me to the Farr (Mumm) 30 class. What I didn't count on was just how much better the guys in that class were. Most owners were very experienced racers and with budgets to load their boats with at least one paid pro. As a result, we were rarely competitive and finished more than one regatta not knowing what we did wrong. The other issue with the Mumm, and I suspect you'd have a similar issue with a 111, is that while the boat was a blast to sail with a good crew, taking another non-sailing couple out was much less fun, quite a bit of work, and could get downright hairy pretty quickly. Again, you can do it, but don't expect a casual wine and cheese experience.

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      amFast

      Hi Pokey, Thanks for sharing your experience.  I think its notable that you were building from an already successful program and still ran up against those challenges.  In contrast, I will be building from scratch, so I'm sure the challenges will be even more acute.

      Of course, the point of racing to begin with is for the challenge, but I don't want to end up in a situation like you describe where everyone else is playing a different game and my budget makes it so I can't compete.

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    J/111 as a Multipurpose Boat?

    Thanks to all above posters for making this the best boat comparison thread I can remember reading. One great comment after another. So many thoughtful and well-informed posts that I'm afraid I'll only lower the thread's quality. But this being SA, I've just got to add my two cents... It sounds like your racing plans are pretty low key. If this is an accurate assessment, racing in the 111 OD fleet will quickly become a disheartening experience. I say this without knowing you or this particular fleet. But I do know that the 111 is much closer to a pure race boat than any of the other boats under consideration. To me, you buy a J/111 when racing is your top priority. You just don't need a powered-up, all-out race boat when you only plan to spend 20% of your time racing. Yes I understand you can single-hand a J/111, or take out the family for a short cruise. But don't fool yourself by watching Blur's videos. Sailing alone at 18 knots is more than a little difficult. It's like watching Carlos Santana play the guitar and thinking, 'yeah, with a little practice, I could sound like that.' Uh, no. You can't. I don't mean to throw cold water on your dreams. We all want a new 'vette. But if I could only have one car, It probably wouldn't be one with two seats, no trunk and a mid engine. On the other hand, if I were ten years younger... #HorsesForCourses
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    I hate Yacht brokers

    The agreement between buyer and sell seems clear. But, who engaged the delivery skipper? The person who engaged the skipper owes the skipper his fee. PERIOD. After that person pays the skipper, that person, if not the seller can then go after the seller for reimbursement. But the buy sell agreement is separate from the delivery engagement agreement. The skipper is not bound by the buy sell agreement unless he was a part of it, which does not seem to be the case.
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    15 minutes of fame

    I liked what RJ had to say about 'beamy boats with chines'. 'Well, all J boats need to sail upwind'.
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    15 minutes of fame

    Agree with the posts above. Never thought I could sit through a 45 minute interview. But was sorry when it was over! Good work staying out of the way.
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    C&C 30OD values today

    More specifically, a much newer sport.
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    C&C 30OD values today

    I get ya Crash: at this point, to go much faster, a design needs to give up stability or sacrifice upwind for downwind performance. And that's why (in my totally uninformed opinion) boats like the C&C 30 aren't selling. Without a significant increase in performance, there's just no real need for a new 30 sport boat. On the other hand, there seems to be plenty of demand for a faster short-hander (Sf3300, JPK, or Pogo), speedy club racer (J88), or even a de-tuned sporty (J70).
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    C&C 30OD values today

    To take my earlier comment one step further, I don't get why sport/full race boats such as the C&C are not significantly faster than their predecessors (e.g. a Farr 30), designed 20+ years earlier. People go on and on about why new race boats don't sell more units. Think about it like this: How many 2021 Corvettes would Chevy sell if they were no faster than a 1994 'vette?
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    C&C 30OD values today

    Not sure how a C&C 30 is a good deal when you can buy an FT10 or a Farr 30 for half the price and go just as fast or faster. Plus both of those boats sail very well to their ratings.
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    how about a 20 yo 32' Wild Oates?

    From the same site... a J120 with T keel, modded rudder, stripped interior, and GOLD trim. You gotta wonder how many loads of coke have ridden this beast to Miami. But best of all... "Her rating is in a range of standard J 120, but she is much faster". Not sure how that works. Anyone know the history of this thing?