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      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Drip Drip Drip

    I think these guys smell a pardon. Maybe Mueller has a state AG on deck with an indictment for Mr. Gold Toilet and his valet..
  2. So much for armed guards in - From the Washington Post: Armed sheriff's deputy stayed outside Florida school while mass killing took place By Lori Rozsa February 22 at 6:11 PM Kristi Gilroy hugs a young woman at a police check point near the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, where 17 people were killed on Feb. 14 in Parkland, Fla. Authorities acknowledged Thursday that an armed school resource officer decided not to enter the school while the shooting was taking place and has resigned. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images) FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — The armed school resource officer assigned to protect students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School took a defensive position outside the school and did not enter the building while the shooter was killing students and teachers inside with an AR-15 assault-style rifle, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said Thursday. Israel suspended School Resource Deputy Scot Peterson on Thursday after seeing a video from the Parkland, Fla. school that showed Peterson outside the school building where the shooter was inside and attacking. “What I saw was a deputy arrive at the west side of Building 12, take up a position, and never went in,” Israel said. Candid conversations about identity in 21st-century America He said Peterson was armed, and was in uniform, and should have gone into the building during the 6-minute event, which left 17 people, most of them teenagers, dead. When asked what the deputy should have done, Israel said: “Went in and addressed the killer. Kill the killer.” Peterson, 54, a resource officer at the school since 2009, resigned after Israel suspended him. Israel said two other officers have been placed on a restricted assignment pending an internal investigation relating the school shooting. “They could have done more, they should have done more,” Israel said. “It’s a fluid investigation. They are on restrictive duty.” Israel said that Peterson was in an office dealing with a school-related issue when the first shots were fired and that he got on his radio and then moved toward the outside of the building where the shooting was taking place. When asked what he is soon doing on the video, Israel replied: “Nothing.” “I think he took up a position where it looked like he could see the western-most entry into the building and stayed where he was. Never went in.” Israel said he “clearly” knew there was a shooter inside, something that made him “sick to my stomach.” “There are no words,” Israel said. “These families lost their children. We lost coaches. I’ve been to the funerals. I’ve been to the homes where they’re sitting shiva. I’ve been to the vigils. It’s just, there are no words.”
  3. Melania Trump’s parents are legal permanent residents, raising questions about whether they relied on ‘chain migration’ 0:55 How did Melania Trump's parents become permanent legal residents? Embed Share President Trump has railed against "chain migration." His wife is an immigrant and his in-laws are in the U.S., but how did they come in?(Meg Kelly/The Washington Post) By Carol D. Leonnig, David Nakamura and Nick Miroff February 21 at 12:39 PM Email the author The parents of first lady Melania Trump have become legal permanent residents of the United States and are close to obtaining their citizenship, according to people familiar with their status, but their attorney declined to say how or when the couple gained their green cards. Immigration experts said Viktor and Amalija Knavs very likely relied on a family reunification process that President Trump has derided as “chain migration” and proposed ending in such cases. The Knavses, formerly of Slovenia, are living in the country on green cards, according to Michael Wildes, a New York-based immigration attorney who represents the first lady and her family. “I can confirm that Mrs. Trump’s parents are both lawfully admitted to the United States as permanent residents,” he said. “The family, as they are not part of the administration, has asked that their privacy be respected so I will not comment further on this matter.” The Knavses are now awaiting scheduling for their swearing-in ceremony, according to a person with knowledge of the parents’ immigration filings. 2:55 What Republicans mean when they say ‘chain migration’ Embed Share President Trump and Republicans in Congress say they want to put an end to “chain migration.” Here’s what they mean when they use this expression.(Video: Bastien Inzaurralde/Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post) Questions over the Knavses’ immigration status have escalated since Trump campaigned for the White House on a hard-line anti-immigration agenda. Those questions grew sharper last month, when the president proposed ending the decades-long ability of U.S. citizens to sponsor their parents and siblings for legal residency in the United States. ADVERTISING Trump has repeatedly blasted the long-standing policy as “chain migration.” In last month’s State of the Union, the president called that process a threat to Americans’ security and quality of life. Under his plan, he said, only spouses and minor children could be sponsored for legal residency. But immigration experts said such a path would have been the most likely method his in-laws would have used to obtain residency that permits them to live in the United States. Matthew Kolken, a partner at a New York immigration law firm, said there are only two substantive ways Trump’s in-laws could gain green cards: by their daughter sponsoring them or by an employer sponsoring them. The latter is unlikely, as it would require a showing that there were no Americans who could do the job for which they were sought. Both the Knavses are reportedly retired. In Slovenia, Viktor Knavs, now 73, worked as a chauffeur and car salesman. Amalija Knavs, now 71, was a pattern maker at a textile factory. David Leopold, an immigration lawyer and a past president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, said the first lady’s sponsorship of her parents appears to be the only reasonable way they would have obtained green cards because the process currently gives preferential treatments to parents of a U.S. citizen. “That would be the logical way to do it, the preferred way to do it and possibly the only way to do it under the facts that I know,” Leopold said. Foreigners can also petition for refugee status or other humanitarian programs, according to the Department of Homeland Security. A White House spokesman and a spokeswoman for the first lady declined to comment. Melania Trump came to the United States from Slovenia in 1996 for several modeling assignments, first on a visitor’s visa and then a work permit. In 2000, Trump self-sponsored herself for a green card based on her “extraordinary ability” as a model, according to information Wildes previously released. [Melania Trump shares more immigration information but no documentation] In 2001, several years after meeting Donald Trump, she received a green card that granted her permanent residency. She became a U.S. citizen in 2006, the year after she and Trump were married. The Knavses have lived on and off with the Trumps in New York City for years and have been seen frequently in Washington since the first lady moved into the White House last summer. Several years ago, their attorneys contacted the office of Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), now the Democratic minority leader, for help checking on the status of their petition for a green card with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, according to a person familiar with the outreach. Such efforts are not unusual and some congressional staffs, including Schumer’s, have a dedicated immigration case worker to handle such requests. Schumer’s office declined to comment. In his State of the Union address on Jan. 30, Trump offered a four-point immigration reform plan that he said “protects the nuclear family by ending chain migration.” “Under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives,” the president said in his speech. “Under our plan, we focus on the immediate family by limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children. This vital reform is necessary, not just for our economy, but for our security, and our future.”
  4. Billy Graham dead at 99

    The evangelical movement is full of bigots who feel they are protected by their savior.
  5. Billy Graham dead at 99

    Graham had good and bad moments. HR Haldeman spoke of antisemitic comments between him and Nixon. He denied them but the comments were later confirmed in the Nixon tapes. Graham apologized. I think of him as more of a politician who could tell which way the wind was blowing than a spiritual figure. To me he's a good example of why churches should stay out of government. Here's a section from recent commentary on Mr. Graham. He received awards from the organized Jewish community and was so beloved in its precincts that in 1994, when H. R. Haldeman, a former top aide to President Richard Nixon, revealed Graham’s lacerating anti-Semitism expressed in private talks with Nixon, the Jewish community dismissed Haldeman’s account out of hand. Tapes from the Nixon Library released in 2002 validated Haldeman’s account, however. “A lot of Jews are great friends of mine,” Graham told Nixon in 1972. “They swarm around me and are friendly to me. Because they know that I am friendly to Israel and so forth. But they don’t know how I really feel about what they’re doing to this country, and I have no power and no way to handle them.” Graham also said that the Jewish “stranglehold” on the media “has got to be broken or this country’s going down the drain.” In 2002, Graham apologized for the remarks, and Jewish community leaders accepted his apology — but the relationship would never again be the same. “We knew that Nixon was an anti-Semite,” Abraham Foxman, then the Anti-Defamation League’s national director, told JTA at the time, whereas Graham is “a guy we all felt comfortable with … And he was so infected with this virulent anti-Semitism.” Rabbi A. James Rudin, the AJC’s senior interreligious adviser, wrote in a statement Wednesday that Graham regretted his remarks about Jews and Judaism. “He publicly apologized for them and asked for forgiveness during his 2002 ‘Crusade’ in New York City,” Rudin wrote. “I had a private conversation with him at that time, where he expressed deep personal remorse and asked me to convey his sincere apologies to the entire Jewish community.”
  6. Drip Drip Drip

    Trump's a Russian borrower or an extortion target..
  7. Don Jr - defining stupid

    "Jack, perhaps it's time for you to just shut the fuck up." Comrade Ridgeline gets paid by the post.
  8. 1. DEMENTED 2 hours ago Donald Trump Jr. ‘Likes’ Conspiracy Theory About Florida Shooting Survivor’s Ex-FBI Dad REUTERS/BRIAN SNYDER Donald Trump Jr. on Tuesday morning apparently clicked the “Like” button on not one, but two tweets promoting a conspiracy theory about a Florida school-shooting survivor’s ex-FBI agent father. “Could it be that this student is running cover for his dad who Works as an FBI agent at the Miami field office Which botched tracking down the Man behind the Valentine day massacre? Just wondering. Just connecting some dots,” read the first conspiratorial tweet, posted by Graham Ledger, host of a talk show on far-right cable outlet OANN. Ledger’s tweet linked to a Gateway Pundit article alleging 17-year-old David Hogg—who survived the Parkland school shooting—was coached in his resultant anti-Trump activism by his father, a retired FBI agent. While it’s possible Trump Jr. accidentally “liked” the conspiratorial post about a teenage boy, he spent the morning boosting tweets favorable to his father—and then liked another tweet about Hogg. This second post promoted an article at far-right site True Pundit, claiming: “Outspoken Trump-Hating School Shooting Survivor is Son of FBI Agent; MSM Helps Prop Up Incompetent Bureau.” The article commented on the teen: “The Deep State media strikes again.”
  9. Drip Drip Drip

    Interestingly, Ivan Pavlov never used a bell as a stimulus. He used, at various times, a metronome, harmonium, buzzer, and electric shock. Never a bell. This explains why I get hungry when practicing with a metronome. I thought it was out of boredom.
  10. Drip Drip Drip

    Did I hear a bell?
  11. Poof goes your conspiracy

    Poof goes your conspiracy Aren't you under indictment Troll?
  12. Politics is an illness

    Go away Russian Troll.
  13. " I visualize him as the Star Wars Kid. Tries hard, but the end result is downright hilarious." I think of him as Trump's 400 pound kid sitting on a bed in his Momma's basement. I find it therapeutic to visualize Trump that way too.