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  1. Nope. A finish is a finish when it is the Vendee Globe. There is no 'but' for people that understand the race. Yawn. Predicted and bored.
  2. Seems somewhat contradictory, no? Not at all. If they hold it all together and win. If they break, biggest fuck up since JK's AC34, Big Red. Don't know that we have seen two similar failures yet on the new boats, at least as far as we know. As for HB, well, the track record speaks for itself. Shocking. Even the VG result was almost undone by power generation issues and owes a lot to Virbac loosing its keel late. A finish is a finish but..
  3. Apart from a few UFO incidents that really can't be helped the gear and build/design related issues are really surprising. Its not like most of those involved don't know to expect these types of conditions. I feel bad for HB but they seem to be a magnet for issues which must say something about their long term approach and prep. BP going along without known issues but they are not pulling away from PRB or Queguiner - Leucemie Espoir. They are better positioned to the west so maybe covering and trying to limit risk. Either way the difference in performance isn't that much so I would be surprised if anyone moves to foils on an older boat for the VG. Most of these new boats are going to be in a race against time to fix, prep and test let along develop their foils
  4. Looks like it maybe the result of UFO damage earlier.
  5. http://www.transat-jacques-vabre.com/fr/message-de-v-and-b-class40 Seems like they had some minor technical problem that they managed to sort out. Also co-pilot hurt his back. Neither my French nor the google translation were good enough Also Eärendil appears to be out. Missed that one on the TJV site. thanks. Hope they get back in it.
  6. Yeah but how many days and thousands of miles behind Still better than a DNF, no? I don't disagree. There have always been journeymen around the edges esp. in the RTW races, not competing to win but in it for the adventure.
  7. Yeah but how many days and thousands of miles behind
  8. What's happened to V and B (Class 40)? They were looking interesting with Le Conservateur yesterday. Now ~46nm directly behind.
  9. Surprised and pleased BP8 has held up so well. Figured they would be a front runner but with Safran out which is the boat longest in the water and hence in theory the most sorted if not the fastest, I wonder what BP has done differently in their build. Certainly going slower didn't work (HB and Virbac). Its also a shame that all the new boats are VLVP. Would have been good to see some really different ideas being built instead of close variations.
  10. Jules Verne Trophy

    I really doubt they will go together. One or other would run a big risk of doing a large part of the tour behind with no chance of catching up. No large scale news in that. Also I get the impression that IDEC is not interested in boat on boat racing hence not joining collective Ultim. But, I stand to be corrected.
  11. 1500 miles and only 30-40 miles apart great racing...... Very nice tactics from Sodebo in the last 24 hours putting is fewer gybes and pulling away as a result. Experience PRB, BP, SMA and Queguiner - Leucemie Espoir very impressive, as expected. Great race so far.
  12. IMOCA picks for the finish: Podium PRB/SMA/SoH (just kidding) BP 8 Other front runner (in the top 10) Queguiner - Leucemie Espoir (tough to type that one out)/Gitana/Safran Out of the top 10 or DNF HB & Virbac Ultime pick Sodebo Class 40 pick Le Conservateur
  13. Jules Verne Trophy

    Me no speekum French. Google translate of the headline makes it look like it could just be a situation where the team may be named differently (Idec not funding?)? No, IDEC is funding. It is just that they decided to withdraw from the Collective Ultim... I guess there were too many constrains and obligations for Francis Joyon. Voilesetvoiliers.com: But the idea is also to attempt the record around the world solo next year? FJ: It's not impossible for me to. But it is not yet officially recorded, though next season, the boat will be soloed configuration. The program is not yet fully defined. We talked about Hong Kong to London from Brest to Qingdao, a solo race to be organized in 2017 ... La Route du Rhum 2018, is still far! As for the race around the world in 2019 established by the Collective Ultim (revealed yesterday she will leave Brest, ed) I am not sure I am not part of this association.
  14. Jules Verne Trophy

    Whats the odds they both go together or near enough. Same two boats in 09 on the Transatlantic W to E, Ambrose Light – Lizard Point left within a few hours of each other. BP won. Stamm was on GA3 hitting over 40 knts. This time its less of a sprint and both boats have changed quite a bit. I know who I will be backing and the name doesn't have a 'Spin' in it....