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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Crap. Thanks man. You having problems with the bolts? I've been thinking of taking the mast step off before the rig gets stepped just to take a good look at them (something I haven't yet done).
  2. I have a wing keel 34+. Yes there is one (maybe two) directly under the mast step casting. There are also at least two under the aftmost piece of cabin sole that's between the companionway steps and the removable bilge panels.
  3. yep, PASS. Way too much $$$ for a sketchy project boat. C22s are everywhere.
  4. Dunno if 36' is too small for your needs but the 90's era C&C 34+ (aka 34/36 aka 36XL) can easily be had for your budget with $$ left over for refit or upgrades. Wing keel version draws 5'. PHRF right around 100, nice aft cabin that my wife loves, overall great interior, easy to singlehand. I have a wing keel 34+ and absolutely love it. The C&C 37/40+ from the same era was also made with a 6' wing keel if you want 40'.
  5. You'e really going to befuddle BC as there is no such paint as VC - There is VC Offshore and VC 17M and they are quite different. What they do have in common is their salt water anti-fouling abilities suck. VC Offshore is a vinyl paint and needs to be sprayed or sanded to get a smooth finish Sets up very hard and is difficult to remove. VC 17M is intended for fresh water use, can be rolled on, is very thin, needs no sanding to end up smooth and comes off easily (rub with alcohol to remove IIRC) https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=2325 I found this "VC17 wipes off easily with alcohol" claim to be incredibly untrue. My C&C came from the Great Lakes with VC17 on it that I had to remove when I brought it out to the east coast. I tried the alcohol thing but all I got was a lightly discolored rag. It would have taken forever to completely remove this way. I ended up sanding it all off, which actually went pretty quickly. Have Petit hydrocoat on it now, which I am happy with.
  6. I don't think Salus is USCG approved. Not that this necessarily matters to the OP - but just wanted to note this. There are some good foam PFD's available from Helly Hansen and Baltic. Baltic also makes a hybrid - some foam flotation with inflatable (manual or auto) in addition Note that most foam PFD sold in the US are not really offshore appropriate and are typically type III or less If you are in the water offshore you will greatly appreciate a float collar and enough flotation to keep your face out of the piss I really like the look of that Salus. Christian raise a good point - I really should not have used the term "offshore", should have said "coastal". At this point I'm not really looking for a type I, really just a more robust Type III for normal coastal conditions. Back to the Salus. Poking around, I found this: http://boatingindustry.ca/marine-products/3863-the-coastal-keelboat-vest-by-salus-marine-wear ... which claims, “The Coastal” Keelboat Vest by Salus Marine Wear just received Coast Guard Approval for your sailing enjoyment starting this spring. Odd that they don't mention this in the product info on their website. I'm assuming it's considered a Type III. Canadian Coast Guard not USCG Ohhhh.... d'oh! So since I have a Canadian boat, it's cool, right?
  7. Chris, I'll cast my lot along with the chorus advising a wise purchase like you mentioned above. Your use case is very similar to mine: very limited availability of long blocks of time, but unpredictable sporadic days and nights scattered at random throughout the season. Owning is the answer, it's your boat, go there when you want. Regarding maintenance: as others have mentioned, if you buy a well-built boat that was well maintained by previous owners, ongoing maintenance really isn't that big of a deal. I agree with the poster who mentioned it as a "zen" thing: I despise house maintenance of any sort, and with cars the only thing I do myself is oil changes (sometimes). But working on your own boat is different. Spiritually more akin to working a motorcycle. Spring commissioning and fall winterization is the bulk of the work, very little to do during the season when the boat is in the water unless you bought a project boat that needs alot of rehab. If you've got $50k or more for the boat purchase, you don't have to buy a rehab project. One thing I will say about Sabres and Tartans that you ought to think about though, is all that exterior teak both boats have in abundance. Brightwork is a love it or hate it thing, and I am in the HATE IT camp. My prior boat was a Sabre. I loved that boat but I hated dealing with the teak. Unless you're resigned to either completely ignoring it and letting it go grey, or paying the yard to religiously maintain varnish, there is no good answer to dealing with it, and maintaining it yourself requires you to waste good sailing weather. This was actually a major consideration when shopping for the boat that came after the Sabre, and is big reason why my current boat is a C&C. The only exterior teak is the cabin-top handrails and the companionway drop boards and trim.
  8. Can't you tell from looking at the inside of the hull in the bilge? I can clearly see where the core in my C&C ends from the inside. Ends about a foot from turn to the keel stub.
  9. I don't think Salus is USCG approved. Not that this necessarily matters to the OP - but just wanted to note this. There are some good foam PFD's available from Helly Hansen and Baltic. Baltic also makes a hybrid - some foam flotation with inflatable (manual or auto) in addition Note that most foam PFD sold in the US are not really offshore appropriate and are typically type III or less If you are in the water offshore you will greatly appreciate a float collar and enough flotation to keep your face out of the piss I really like the look of that Salus. Christian raise a good point - I really should not have used the term "offshore", should have said "coastal". At this point I'm not really looking for a type I, really just a more robust Type III for normal coastal conditions. Back to the Salus. Poking around, I found this: http://boatingindustry.ca/marine-products/3863-the-coastal-keelboat-vest-by-salus-marine-wear ... which claims, “The Coastal” Keelboat Vest by Salus Marine Wear just received Coast Guard Approval for your sailing enjoyment starting this spring. Odd that they don't mention this in the product info on their website. I'm assuming it's considered a Type III.
  10. I presently have a mediocre water-sports style life vest which I like because it's not too bulky and is quite comfortable, but I'm starting to look around for a more robust offshore-appropriate NON-inflatable vest with more buoyancy, and with pockets and lanyard rings. I don't want an inflatable vest of any sort. Mustang seems to have some decent ones, but I figured I'd solicit some opinions here. In particular, I'd like one that would work well with a harness underneath it since nobody seems to make a non-inflatable vest with a built-in harness.
  11. Maybe I'm just a small dreamer, but I've already got my dream boat. If I won the lottery I'd just finish refitting & updating this boat. New deck, new sails, new maxprop. It's already everything I want in a boat.
  12. That's one of the problems with our sport- To do it right, sometimes you need to take a week or more off. Many people in our society just don't have that kind of free time anymore. It is sad. By May, I'll have 240 hours of vacation in the bank. I'll be lucky if I can take a week off. To play any ball-related sport, all you need is an afternoon. This. Out of the 5 weeks of vaca I get a year, I usually end up cashing out 3 of them. I almost never take long blocks of time off, rather work 3 days a week and live on the boat and daysail during the season. I spend a lot of time on my boat, but the time requirements are one of several reasons I don't race.
  13. My parents had powerboats when I was a kid. I was oblivious to sailboats until they caught my eye as an adult, took lessons and learned to sail in my mid-20s.
  14. I have a '90 C&C 34+ (35.5' LOA) that fits your described demographic and budget. This hull was called various things during its run in the 90s - 34+, 34/36, 36XL. Very sweet sailing boat, easy to single hand and a wonderful interior for weekends or longer. Only problem is there are never very many on the market, not a huge run. Worth checking out if you can find one.
  15. Ev There was an interesting fork in the road in the r&d with propulsion within the ranks of NASA scientists in the sixties. Those that argued the case for atomic propulsion vs fuel based propulsion were gradually weeded out or left on their own. The physicist Freeman Dyson has written about this juncture in history and where space exploration might be had they taken the less travelled route. Their main problem was drag/resistance of the large tanks to house the fuel, which as history has shown, were opted to be discarded in flight. Just imagine a rocket propelled by batteries. The nuclear-thermal rocket engine sure is interesting... kinda weird that it never took off.