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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I doubt that you will find anyone willing to sell theirs for a couple of reasons. One, they may need it. Two, even if they dont use it now, if they ever sell the boat, it will not help the sales price if they dont have a keel crane. I know its expensive, but I would bite the bullet and order a new one from melges. Just go right to the website and order it. Buy the time all is said and done, your probably not going to save that much doing it yourself. I believe on melges website you can order just the bare tube not the crank and line. This will save you some money if you just order the tube and go get the crank and line somewhere else. The thing is you want to do this right and make sure all the parts can withstand the weight as it carries alot of load and can easily injure someone if not done properly.
  2. port tack has a pretty good analysis
  3. melges 24. plenty of used boats out there around 15k and it hits all of your points and more.
  4. Gowrie offers full rig coverage, but for one time only. Once you have a claim, the insurance will not cover the new rig, even if you wanted to pay more for it. I looked into it.
  5. Who is the us sailing insurance company that does not cover masts? Is it Gowrie Group? I was told they do.
  6. Forget having to knock your price down when selling, I think theres a good chance you may not be able to give it away with bottom paint on it. This is a little dramatic, but there are enough boats out there, I doubt people will give it much thought regardless of how cheap you make it.
  7. Yeah I think so.
  8. Who use to make the white masts? Company began with an O or A I think. I dont believe you can get white masts anymore.
  9. Doesnt your insurance cover it?
  10. How did you get so lucky to get a black mast that early? I know boats in built in 2005 were still being supplied with white masts.
  11. so he missed the numerous sporties with assos in the late 80's???? Your kidding right? Yup I missed that one. Nothing inspires a younger sailor more than some test boat from the 80s that never went anywhere.
  12. Melges 24 was absolutely years ahead of its time. Considering it was one of the first boats ever to have an asym chute (i think the only other boat was j105) correct me if I am wrong, it really changed the sailing industry. For a young guy like myself, it made sailboat racing fun and cool. I still think its one of the more modern boats on the market today.
  13. I wouldnt worry about replacing the mast. The only difference is the color. If it breaks, it should be covered under insurance. I would worry about condition of the boat, covers and sails. In my opinion I think there are some pretty nice 100 and 200 series boats out there.
  14. Big announcement coming Thursday. Is it this or something different?
  15. I dont think eye sailor was really trying to be negative here