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  1. Yup, also 125 built in carbon would be a few hundred grand more. Tough sell in a tough market. How many production (non-custom) builders of sailboats are left in US? Even Sabre is building motorboats now.
  2. Need a surveyor in Chicago that knows J boats well. Thanks for the recommendation.
  3. This...
  4. Unfortunately, the only way to save money is to do it yourself. I was looking at a 30 footer at a great price in Texas and after getting 10-12K transport estimates to the Northeast, gave up on the idea.
  5. I agree with you 100%. Horses for courses. Handicap rules suck. Across oceans shorthanded and cruising, Pogo no question. Racing in any handicap system, i'll have to pick the 121.
  6. Its a really tough choice. If for cruising, then Pogo has so much more boat to offer without a doubt, but if racing, its so beamy with so much wetted surface and a punishing rating. Just last weekend it came in about 1 hr before a well-sailed Hanse 375 after 190 nm. Phrf 6 vs. 114. Im sure 121 would have kicked ass.
  7. Yes, but there has not been any news on it lately. Isn't the launch of hull no 1 was projected for this August? Im really looking forward to see it already.
  8. Whats the rating on the 100 with the 150 Genoa?
  9. Finally got around doing the install. Here is the Balmar AT-165 on my 4JH3E. Here is the dilemma im having: Mainsail recommends a 2/0 wire fused at 200 run straight to house batt positive. Another super knowledgeable engineer friend of mine who used to own marine electrical business saying just do a short run unfused to the battery switch that connects to the house positive. Another engineer friend of mine says keep using the sterling isolator and run a smaller wire unfused to the isolator so both starting and house get charged. Please advice. Thank you.
  10. Getac is the best, however it is expensive.
  11. Thx for the info.
  12. Speaking of jib trim, are inhaulers allowed in the class?
  13. Make a contingent offer if you like the boat. Buy a moisture meter, they are super easy to use. Read up online how to use it. Do it yourself. If all is good, then proceed to a professional surveyor. If wet deck, run, unless its a steal.
  14. Found that email from Charly: Hello,Yes, the mast is higher about 1meter and lighter with the backstays, you can have a spinnaker of almost 200m² instead of the 142m² of the Pogo12.50In attachment you can see a rigging and pictures of 2 Pogo12.50 racing versionI'm looking forward to hearing from you.best regards -- Charly Fernbach