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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Well good luck with that. Knowing the difference in course lengths between div 1 and div 2 and if Monday, Tuesday and Thursday's forecasts hold true, I'm prepared to wager now this will be another "big boat" regatta. OMR was never designed for single fleets of widely varying performance and capability in different wind and wave conditions. It's not that smart and was never designed to be. Howl me down if you want but if you doubt what I'm saying read up on the Texel history. On the other hand and if the conditions are light, it will be a great shame if many div 2 boats score DNF on the longer courses. Ok it wasn't light and it wasn't a "big boat" regatta. Starting div1 & 2 together and sailing the same course worked out really well. When i get time i will work out the combined results for each race but race 6 shows for sure that the latest revision of OMR is working really well for the Wangi 2016 fleet. Race 6 OMR combined: 1 Wilparina III 2 S'Knot 3 Trinity 4 Triple A 5 Airplay 6 Fifty Fifty 7 Bare Essentials 8 Foxy 9 Tiger 10 SPC4 11 desert first 12 Mad Hatter 13 Jaguar Please check Golgfinger. Without having the benefit of combined Div 1 and Div 2 results for the series, the facts are this for anyone who wants to do the sums. On average over 6 races the Div 1 boats sailed the course about 20% faster than the Div 2 boats. Hardly surprising. So if OMR is reflecting reality, for "mixed" fleets sailing the same courses, I would expect roughly the same differences in OMRs. However, even though the Div 1 boats were typically 20% faster, on average, for this regatta, their OMR ratings were only about 13% higher. Sure, sure, averages are averages and while it is true that a few Div 2 boats sailed extremely well to their rating and were deservedly the podium finishers in Div2, the reality is that the majority of the Div 2 boats could not match it with Div 1 boats either on rating or speed. Most races were sailed in breezes around or above 20 knots. Race 6 started very light and shifty and is not probably a great guide Foxy got away (he is a local) Trinty lead Sknot around first mark Bare did not pass us until halfway up the second leg some 15 mins in (I did mention this to Tim) Your dreaming, if you bent over I would of stuck my proda up your ass at the first mark...
  2. We have been waiting for you, If we didn't have to go back and pick up a crew member who fell off it would of been 5 minutes in the first. Looking foarward for the games to begin Thursday. See ya on the water.
  3. Yeah bit sad. Div 2 has all the action There was a bit of action on Bare Essentials today. They're div 1.
  4. Nah I would love to see him on a Yvonne!! That would be something....
  5. no! Which marina is everyone booking into for Airlie?
  6. Word on the street is the only nutts we'll be eating are our own!! (according to PB) Reckon he'll be eating a lot of BARE shit that week.......
  7. Bare Essentials will be at ABRW..
  8. Sorry Peter, Div 1 is OMR without crew weight of 0.9 and above. Boom without crew is 0.908, actually for Geelong the cutoff was lowered to allow Airplay to race with Div 1. You will have to add a fair bit more weight to keep out of div 1 if that's what you want. 900 kg without crew will do the trick. Perhaps a big anchor and chain? Boat weights have always varied and it is up to the owner to optimise and make the boat comfortable to suit their local conditions and style of sailing. Unfortunately there have also been some weights that cannot be right due to load cells needing calibrating one year, and in another I can remember a big cat swinging in a 25 knot south-easter with the crane operator yellng numbers from a single cell, so those numbers were doubtful. Again in the absence of a functional national authority, MYCQ as the administrator of OMR is addressing this issue as we type. Div 1/2 separations in the absence of a functional national authority have been determined by the organising clubs at each event, and I am not aware of any club up in sensible-land putting little boats in div 1, that would be just silly. For all our big events, the F22, F24, F25, F27, F28, F9 (Quickskips/Emarineworld), Sprint, Dash, F32 (Trinket) and even F33 (Pocahontas) have sensibly been put into Div 2. My recollection is that borderline case like Pocahontas was put in Div 1 for the lightwind nationals at Hervey Bay and it was tough for them in the back of that fleet. At Airlie nats they got into Div 2 and won the nats, but did not necessarily get line honours. Consensus was that they belonged in Div 2. The only little boat that I can remember getting into Div 1 up here was Moving Finger/Dux Nutts, and that was sensible also. Peter agree
  9. Looks like you have a oversize tall mast, you need to be re-measured!!!
  10. yep, exciting wasn't it.
  11. expensive lesson if you try motoring around in a F32SRC folded I've heard Peter, was that Airlie beach last year? regards Tony Considine Twas a genuine question to Tim, I am interested in if and how he got that folding mechanism to work on the water. Gordon said it could not be done. I don't know what the F32 had to do with me Tony, never even stepped on one and no idea what they are like when folded. I don't think it was Airlie but Townsville near where the big ferries rip in. Peter Always open Bare on the trailer and never folded Skips up in the water while motoring, always at the dock. And Shaun, YES I do remember your motoring folding episode. Do you remember what I said to you after that? Now personally, I'm sick of this Farrier Vrs Grainger shit, I love them both. Love Skippys and love Bare Essentials. Lets sail!!
  12. Hey Pete, Bare is just as easy to fold as our F9RX. No problem with either, love them both...ps Bare has race cushions now as well.
  13. Yep they're right, foils are a waste of time, as I stated before. The boat is definitely faster and better balanced when the main hull is in the water.
  14. Well at least you're happy with something...
  15. They certainly look nice...