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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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    J/70, Olson-30
  1. For a bit of perspective... I have had 5 major concussions (2 from sailing) and likely countless other small ones from years of contacts sports, skiing, sailing, and life in general. This started early in my life and progressed over time. If I so much as take an elbow to the head now I lose 2 to 3 months of my life recovering in a best case scenario. The worst case scenario would be death. I do not begrudge parents who wish to forestall this potential fate. In general the stigma in sailing around helmets is toxic. I wear one now simply so that I can still enjoy the sport, and I will continue to do so. I mainly race J/70's now, and while it is a relatively safe boat, its just not worth the risk. Even for someone in my situation laughs and ridicule on the course are common. This culture led me to not be wearing a helmet the last time I got hurt and that's a problem. When I was a ski racer in the late 90's and early 2000's we were the only people on the mountain in helmets and most people sneered. 20 years later you would get laughed at for not wearing one. All of the excuses people made for why people shouldn't have them have fallen away as people have simply gotten used to them. The toxic culture is gone and everyone is better off for it. How about we just take a step back and lay off for a bit. People can make their own decisions about what is best for themselves and their children. They don't need or deserve your ridicule.
  2. Just took delivery of USA-293 and will be racing mainly in Baltimore and Annapolis. Trying to scratch up at least a starting point tuning guide. I have been playing in the J/70 fleet these last 4 seasons and I have to say having abundant information out there is very helpful and improves the racing. Has anyone over in Sweden put together anything you are willing to share? How about the Aussies? Thanks in advance! -Jon
  3. I have to say that as an SSA member I cringed a bit at the reference in the post. Not really appropriate while the building is still smoldering... While SSA is in reality the complete and total antithesis of AYC, and while AYC simply isn't for me and I would never join, I think that they both have a place in the sailing world. Moreover, in reality, a number of people are members of both clubs (albeit the wealthier ones)... To correct a prior post there IS actually overlap in the fleets in the two clubs, though it is mainly in the Keelboats (J/70, J/22, etc). Among these classes there is a fair amount of mutual cooperation between the clubs, not animosity. Also as far as WNR is concerned, AYC lets in OD boats from any of the clubs, so I am happy there (J70). It is only PHRF that is restricted. AYC and SSA also cooperate in supporting youth events, team racing and lager regattas like the NOOD. The clubs are different. They serve two completely different purposes and in many ways different sailors, though there is overlap. I would never be a member of AYC, though do I believe the Annapolis sailing world would be better off without AYC.... Simply put, no I do not.
  4. "remember the shoal draft 105's" Ha yes and they were all proven to pretty much be fools and everyone promptly got regular 105's... Very true you aren't going gunk holing with a draft of 6.5, but you aren't doing that either with anything over 4.5. There have been a number of successful OD fleets on the bay that weren't really "bay boats". I WOULD have serious pause though with the no Genoa thing if this boat is forever relegated to the PHRF fleets. It is rather silly, for example, what an Olson-30 with a 155% Genoa will do to a J-105 upwind in anything under 10kts... And we have dying breezes quiet often on the bay. So unless there is OD whats the point of the boat? And on that front I have to go back to the pricing and the fact that people just aren't going to move out of their current boats in numbers to create an OD fleet for a 29ft racer/daysailer with 'some' accommodations at over $160K sail away. If there is OD I am all for this boat, and want one. Without it...
  5. I spoke to Ken Comerford at North Point Yacht Sales about a month ago, he said they sold so many 70s there was no one left to buy the 88. There is one there but it didn't sound like the owner plans to do a whole lot of racing. The j88 is not a Farr 280, but it's a lot of fun to sail and seems solidly built. Not sure if I fully buy the J/70 vs J/88 argument as a reason. They serve two very different purposes. I like the 70 a lot but I do more with my boat than just race (though i mostly race and race often). I could not have the 70 as my only boat. There may be some overlap in potential buyers, but I am not sure if they are really the same group. I could be completely off on that though.
  6. True there are a number of expensive boats out there. Though I guess my point is that if you can't come up with a package for a boat like this that is attractive enough from both the boat and price perspective to get people out of their current boats and create a fleet what is the point of doing the boat at all? Then you just have the J-92s again. I really really like this boat. I guess time will tell if I start seeing them out on the bay in numbers.
  7. Anyone know what hull# they are up to with these at this point? Is there anyone starting to race these in the Annapolis area (I have yet to see any)? In theory I am very very interested in this boat but the price seems very high (sail away in excess of $160K... or more), which may mean no OD racing ever appears. Without the development of a solid OD fleet in the area the price seems even more unrealistic. Does anyone want a $170K 29ft PHRF boat? Seems like they should have targeted a sail away price around $110K tops. That is where I (and probably a number of others) would likely buy one. On paper it ticks almost all of the boxes that I am looking for. The price and as a result the sketchy prospects for a real OD fleet in the area leave me scratching my head...