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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Isn't she a beauty?
  2. You know thats just about the first time ive heard anyone let alone a guy with a personal investment in time and from what i gather a significant monetry one say that there are a l;ot of sailors out there who put offshore yacht racing aside exactly for the reasons my father did, man management for a full crew, mortgage, and a few kids at private schools aside, who still want to have fun, arent yet too old, know enough to know they need a simple boat to keep ongoing running costs from going off the chart, and since they worked their arses of most likely to may the forementioned mortagage, and bougfht up a family, may be sitting on realestate that asset wise allows them to finally indulge, what comes to mind in Oz is they are asset wealthy, and may be downsizing a now typically mill plus home, congrats mate.....wish you all the best. Thinking back, my father bought his first racing yacht in 20 years, and in the marina the guy next door, a both similar boats, joked together in clear excitment on introducing themselves that they had each just written their last ever school fee cheque! Love to see someone build real boats for real bopat owners rather than isolating them, to the point where id bet many dont want in on a class or scene thats a cock size comparison in terms of dollar spend, sure this lot can often afford that but having done plenty of 80 hour weeks etc to buy said home, maybe an investment unit or 2 and kidsw cocsts find it excorbitant anda waste....not to mention the wank factor. Thanks AS, we're just having a bit of fun here and hope we can get a few exec's, who spend a lot of their time surfing the sailing websites, back out on the water again. We're working on getting one of ours in your part of the work in around a years time. In the meantime keep an eye on of FB page.
  3. I'm glad you're enjoying your boat so much. 23 on board??? That sounds more like human trafficking than sailing. Can I assume it was all legit?
  4. Latest pics from the yard. The corecell foam is being vacuumed in place, differing densities and thicknesses, with the thickest and highest density up in the bow where the highest slamming loads occur. You'll notice gaps in the foam on the sides where the composite chain plates will be laminated in. The deck plug is almost ready for the mould to be taken off it, just a bit more fairing and sanding to go. The coachroof overhang and cockpit sides will be a separate mould. It's plug is being made on the deck plug to make sure everything is fair and matches.
  5. Well done Shaggy on your plan D, these wide boats certainly make life interesting. We have about 5 cm play to get ours out between the building columns and will still have to remove a roller door and some structure. I see your appendages were painted grey, that was just asking for trouble, I hope you'll put that to rights
  6. Cheers SB, I'll have a look at the PC, the Panasonics are a bit too pricey around here. Sounds like you should up your security a bit, judging by the last post. On the engine front it looks like it's 2 - 0 to Lombardini on our build Lombardini Pros: Light weight Cheap Electronic stop Economical Reliable Cons: NVH is bad due to alloy head, not as smooth as a Yanmar or Volvo Corrosion Parts hard to find Some quality is a bit ordinary such as motor mounts Thanks for the comments Muppet. I agree with the cons, we'll have to deal with them, but for now the weight advantage is the over-riding factor.
  7. With the hull mould finished the real boat building has started, the first layers of the outer skin have gone on and are under vacuum
  8. Thanks Samc, I'll look at the Getac The early Class 40's had nav stations on the centre line, but the more recent ones don't and rather have a screen mounted in each quarter berth. The only flat surface in the boat is the top of the engine cover that is in the centre of the cabin. Thiis can double as a work surface.
  9. Cheers SB, I'll have a look at the PC, the Panasonics are a bit too pricey around here. Sounds like you should up your security a bit, judging by the last post. On the engine front it looks like it's 2 - 0 to Lombardini on our build
  10. An update on progress of our Cape 40 5G build. The deck plug is coming on nicely, there's good curvature on the foredeck for improved hull stiffness and a deep cockpit aft for crew protection and easy access to the cabin.
  11. Hi SB What computer are you using on board? Which engine did you go for? We're deciding between the Lombardini (low mass) and Yanmar reliable with spares, but an extra 10kgs
  12. Thanks GC, I'll check it out. Lamination of the hull starts next week and the deck plug is coming along nicely. New pics in the next day or two
  13. Cheers, Chucky, this project feels more like play, than work. Thanks for the suggestions, although these boats are pretty stripped out, so anything that makes life easier, but weighs a few ounces, is chucked out. Boat 1 will be B&G 5000, the jury is still out on boat 2
  14. RIP BILL. HE CERTAINLY MADE THE SAILING ANARCHY FORUMS AN INTERESTING PLACE TO VISIT FOR A FEW YEARS.
  15. Thanks for the comments, they are much appreciated. There is a significant weight advantage to the Lombardini (123.8 kg / 272 lbs including gearbox) vs Yanmar ( 137kg / 301 lbs), but there is little point if you can't get support and spares. It looks like we'll offer Lombardini in Europe where there is support and Yanmar in the US. The Volvo is heavier than both of them. My next question is about computers. There is no chart table with the navigation done using a wireless keyboard and a screen fixed in each quarter berth. I have heard mention of Panasonic Toughbooks as well as solid state Brix computers. What is a reliable, low mass solution? We have a skipper that is fanatical about saving weight and is trimming everywhere, so this is turning out to be a huge issue with noticeable performance gains. I expect he'll be cutting the handle off his toothbrush soon! Here is a pic of our rig layout, step by step this baby is taking shape. OCD 181 Rig P1.pdf