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    Any recommendation fora light weight sailor on A class catamaran would be appreciated.

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  1. A Cat Worlds Sopot

    I fully agree with Simon. Downwind foiling has become so boringly easy that while chatting with the neighbors I keep myself busy by knitting a pull-over for next winter.
  2. De Bello Classico

    We are a group of French A class sailors. We recognize that the A class is a development class and therefore we find fully legitimate the desire of those who want to develop as a foliling class. Nevertheless it is, for us, obvious that the performance of foiling boats is a large improvement over the performance of the older designed floating boats and even more so now that foiling upwind is possible. Competition between these 2 types of boat has become meaningless. We also believe that foiling boats require physical, technical and financial capacities that are out of reach for most of us. Consequently, inspired by our Italian friends and fully in line with the French sailing federation, we have decided to create a new French classic A class : ACCF (A-cat Classic France) This new association is meant to be complementary to the actual AFCCA, specially for newcomers, and we would be ready to rejoin IACA if and when they decide to create the 2 appropriate sub-divisions
  3. A Class new YSA Yardsticks

    Simple answer says it depends what you mean by "scientific rigor". The problem in sailing is you cannot get the same person sailing 2 different boats against himself at the same time! However, sailing in a training group, we have seen a lot of evidence that C foils are quicker around a course, by some margin. Upwind, there seems to be little difference in all conditions. It is downhill, once you are sailing wild, that the difference is very noticeable. Once you add winglets to the rudders, it gets bigger still, although to be fair, I cannot say what effect adding winglets to a straight foil boat would have, but the combination of wingets and C foils can be driven a lot harder downhill by trapezing than you can do on a straight foil boat. Other evidence comes from comparative performance against other classes. A good benchmark is Stevie Brewin's performances at Kurnell. When i started in the class, Stevie was sailing a straight board Tool and while he won on handicap against the F18's, he couldn't beat them around the course. Last year, in the big handicap event and sailing off the same handicap as the F18's, Stevie won on the water. That was sailing off a handicap of 67.5. That tells me that the boats are now significantly quicker and looking at the past handicaps and results, I would say that a C foil boat with winglets on the rudders are about 2 - 2.5 minutes quicker in a 40 minute race than the old straight board boats. Of course, that isn't very scientific but I believe that it gives us a fair indication of order of magnitude. And as for the new foils - J, Z and whatever else comes along - I believe we are talking about an even bigger jump. I believe in the power of statistical analysis. However sailing speed is a function of so many parameters that I don’t believe that statistics could find a decent correlation between speed and dagger boards curvature radius (considering also the scarcity of data points). I would believe in sophisticated simulation models such as the ones probably used by AC syndicates. I would also believe in practical tests such as switching boards on the water with a reference boat nearby, provided that the results are repetitive. I am also of the intuitive opinion that upwind, C boards do not really help. They probably help downwind but from what you say “C foils can be driven a lot harder downhill by trapezing than you can do on a straight foil boat.” I get the impression that the advantage is only there, say above 12 knots of wind. But I ‘d agree with you that J or Z boards (when foiling) would give a much bigger jump.
  4. A Class new YSA Yardsticks

    I see from the figures presented in the cat yardsticks document that C dagger boards for A cats are supposed to be significantly superior than straight boards. Is there any evidence of this? Upwind and downwind, light and heavy winds. By evidence, I mean results of tests being carried out with some “scientific rigor”, not just gut feelings or following the trend in fashion.