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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Good post. Must have been a distress call, look at how all the other shipping in the area reacts.
  2. BBC breaking news. That Capitaino is going to prison. 8.2m draught and faffing around on a 10m contour with 10,000 tonnes and 4,000 souls. Stupidly close to a visibly rocky shore, what you see above the WL will give a very good indicator of what's below and 1.8m clearance is the same size as..well....a very big rock..(there's a keel somewhere with big chunk missing where I learnt that lesson). If he wanted to get close for photos for the paying guests he didn't even need to cross the 20m contour. FFS you wouldn't even do that during blind nav in fog. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16570281
  3. So darn those floating rocks eh? Difficult to avoid. With new passengers on-board and having taken her out of port earlier that day, chances are the Captain wasn't on the Bridge and was at rest or dinner or Mix n Mingle. Generally accidents like this happen because the Watch isn't experienced, awake or sober (the reason why if you sail in the Med you know to stay well away from commercial shipping). I doubt(hope) it wasn't the latter two on a well regulated boat like this one. Auto-pilots do fail, that's why there should be someone to "Watch" them. Sounds like someone has made a judgement call to change course, allegedly for a better view of the island, but not confirmed their position and new course. Anyone access to a chart for the area? I've read that hazard it hit was charted and is either above the WL or dries. The hazard is apperently called Le Scole, so if it has a name then clearly everyone knows it's there (or at least the locals do). But in the Med they have a habit of not marking hazards. Why stick a light on it if all the local fishermen know where it is? Then there is the deviation between chart and GPS in the Med, in places that can be up to 2nm. The very reason why electronic nav is used an aid to navigation and not the primary nav source. I agree with others that the Captain has assessed the extent of the damage and headed for shallow waters to beach her. If he felt the list was going to take her to the point of no return he's done exactly the right thing. She can't invert or sink any further if she's aground. Can you imagine how bad it could have been if he hadn't and she had inverted in deeper waters? Well spotted that in the pics she isn't lit, I hadn't noticed that.