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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Believe it or not, getting a new deck might be cheaper. It will certainly be better. Painting the deck takes a ton of time.. lots of fiddly detail sanding, masking etc. Cutting off the old deck and putting on a new one is pretty close in price. As a bonus, you get the new hatches no lazerettes..etc, Doing the bulkhead and other interior stuff is really easy with the lid off. Call Ted at Waterline for pricing -- 401-247-3000 ext 319 will
  2. Upstate NY...
  3. It is a pain in the ass that Baltoplate only comes in gallons. I needed to do a small touch up and bit the bullet and bought a gallon and 3 quart cans. So now I have 3 quarts of metallic gray Balto ... If anyone else is in the same boat and just needs a quart, PM me.
  4. It was a very popular victory for the Mo Money team! Those guys have been right there for years, great to see them on the top stop of the podium!
  5. Coming into a leeward gate, our helmsman made a rare and ill advised gate override. We rounded and it was immediately obvious that the pack of 3-4 boats behind us were now ahead of us due to their rounding the correct gate. We sailed upwind in complete silence for a couple of minutes, until the helmsman's 17 year old son turned back and announced, " Just for that, you are going to the BAD nursing home!"
  6. Most boats have at least one woman aboard. Sometimes more.
  7. M was the ROW boat leading up to the tack. As the leeward ROW boat she has the right to choose between asking for room to tack or to duck the S boat. If she ducks, she needs to give room to I to duck too. So it seems to me that M is far less innocent than Brass assumes.
  8. It is ALWAYS wacky on Lake George. All part of the charm. As usual, a strong rum front blew through Saturday night, a bunch of teams suffered some damage :-) The LG Regatta is always a super way to wrap up the summer. If you have a J/22, put it on the calendar.
  9. Oreos work best if there is a flock of seagulls nearby.
  10. I've probably had more experience with this stuff than anyone, so I'll take a swing at these. Can anybody comment on the trailer ability? The boat is big, but light. I get almost exactly the same mileage towing the 30 as I do towing a J/24. I have a long wheelbase van and that seems to help Single point or travellift? Either way, but I prefer a travellift and a good driver when going to the high position on the trailer Road height? We can get under gas station canopies with pulpits and stanchions on. Keel up\down systems work well? The keel up down thing is pretty easy. A good travellift dude helps, but it is a really quick operation. Ease of rig step/tune? Pretty similar to a Mumm 30. The mast jack is a nice option and speeds things up a ton. Does keel sit in keelbox between axles or higher? Above, but since the keel retracts we aren't too high
  11. Is anyone else getting stuck at Cloud Flare when accessing the mythical front page?
  12. The Pro rule was enforced at Key West. Everyone submitted their crew lists, there were a few competitors that some had questions about. They checked out. Every one design goes through a period where the rules are tested, and clever folks try to improve the boat. That's cool. Some of these changes have been incorporated into the rules. Others won't be. So far, it has been a pretty drama-free first few regattas on the technical side.
  13. You can't do well in that division unless you hire 3 pro's. You might as well just buy a trophy. You can hire as many pros as you want in the C&C 30 Class. But, you can only sail with 2.
  14. Gouv, It would require a change to the builder's spec. That is a pretty big deal in terms of time, money and expense. It took about a year or a year and a half to get the spec changed to allow unpainted masts. Lots of people have lots of ideas. Some of them are even good. There was a massive change to the builder's spec when Waterline took over as builder. the stick built interior - gone. new deck mold with fiberglass coamings - in... there were a bunch of other changes too. These changes were made in consultation with and the agreement of; all the builders worldwide, J/Boats, the Class and ISAF. I guess from the outside it may look like Dunes just decided to change the coamings. It doesn't work that way. Did these changes make the boat better- for sure. More importantly, they made the boat so that it could be manufactured efficiently enough to continue as a viable product. Finally, molded parts are sacrosanct. If it comes from a mold, it must be made by a licensed builder. Period. Full Stop. The only way to effectively police what is inside a molded part is the threat of pulling a license. None of the builders had the slightest interest in building this part when the idea was proposed, That was what, a decade ago? By none, I mean zero. Very short conversation. If it is possible to get interest less than zero, I suspect that is where the support is today. You are probably right though. Just allowing molded coamings would, for sure, bring back 50 and 60 boat weekend fleets.
  15. The toe rails are in the builders spec. Thus legal. The molded coamings are not in the builder's spec and do not come from an approved mold. Therefore, they aren't.