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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. That would be nice. It is certainly nice that Hugo Boss is giving a good budget to Alex. I fear that for many foreign skippers, the VG is a bit like the America's cup for French skippers : winning is a far away prospect because they aren't quite good enough -> ROI for sponsors isn't great -> there is never enough money to have a credible entry -> people never get quite good enough at it -> winning is a far away prospect etc...
  2. Trouble with the vg is that it isn't truly international yet. Only two brits have been real foreign contenders.
  3. 6.50 regularly cross the bay of Biscay or the Celtic sea racing.
  4. Good starting point. I would add a rear cabin like those on ocean rowing boats and make sure that the cockpit can drain really fast. Roofs shapes would be optimised for upside down instability and watertight masts would be nice to have. A windvane, a few solar panels for the navigation lights and Bob is your uncle.
  5. Marine engines are unreliable and force you to carry fuel. Being engineless is certainly not for everybody and not for me but it can make sense as much as owning something as pointless as a boat can make sense. It is probably quite hard to find what he wants, tbh if I wanted to own such a boat I would build a chined plywood boat with a water ballast and make it as long as possible while within the target weight. Better keep the roof high to make it unstable upside down as these boats can get rolled easily.
  6. It's all relative. Square metres boats are the really skinny ones. I wouldn't call her wide either ;-) is rather skinny, skinny enough for her?
  7. Beautiful but not that skinny.
  8. I suppose that LLWLT is very close to what we have. Some of our datum are wrong (datums were established many moons ago with height errors), it doesn't really matter as tide tables integrate the error. The datum error tend to be so that the tide actually never goes below 0 except in a few places like Granville (nearby the Mont St Michel). The error is about 20cm, it is not as bad as it seems as max tides there are around 13m so you would be foolish not too have an healthy margin as the sea rises / lowers at a rate varying between 4m/hour and 1m/hour during a spring tide.
  9. Thanks, it makes sense now. May be it is because this is what I am used to but I find our system of the lowest possible tide more idiot proof. If you read a 4m sounding on the map and don't have time to calculate accurately water height, you know that there is at least 4m of water. When the Brits were still printing maps using imperial units with a different datum, it was quite dangerous for French boats used to the simplicity of metrics. I think that quite a few crabs got crushed by a French keel!!!
  10. You've lost me, what's the difference between mean lower low water and mean low water?
  11. I am not used to American charts (do you give soundings relatively to the lowest theoretical tide like we all seem to do in Europe now but not before as old British maps used to do it relatively to mean water height) but depending on the tide you can have a 4 feet sounding and say 8 feet of water. Also from the map, the bottom seems pretty flat so an echo sounder would have given plenty of warning assuming that the map is right. Here where we get 40 feet tides thus a 4 feet sounding is nearly always safe for a 5' draft boat assuming that the sea is calm.
  12. Relying solely on crowd-sourced information to navigate is just daft IMHO. The map was either wrong in which case I have some sympathy for him (we know that maps can be wrong and that we should use them with care but it is easy to get caught by this) or he didn't have one/couldn't read one/couldn't be bothered to navigate in which case he was just idiotic.
  13. If you can find a contessa 26 for 5000$, consider it. These are tough as nail and very seaworthy.
  14. I don't know this boat type in particular so can't give a definite advice but it seems reasonable. It is IOR era boat so might be squirelly dead downwind and not very stiff, but for your use it is probably adequate. 30 feet is already a nice size. If you just want to spend some time with the missus, 28 feet is big enough.
  15. As said Twolegged above, the most relevant figure to running costs is boat displacement (apart for dock fees). I would try to look around with an open mind and try to find something that displaces between 2000 and 4000kg with a cockpit and an inside just big enough for my needs. Being able to handle the boat easily is often underated and a 7 tons boat will feel like a bus compared to a 2 tons one. Big boats are good at covering long distances and weathering big seas but you don't need this on a lake.