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Everything posted by Panoramix

  1. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    lot of traffic in the area including fishing boats with weird lights. Also problems of piracy, it is a tricky area.
  2. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    I think that Caudrelier might have unlimited tonnage. He's Certainly got the appropriate academic diploma but may be he hasn't enough time on big cargo ships.
  3. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    In France it was mentionned.
  4. VOR Leg 6 Hong Kong to Auckland

    @random You better write short posts if you want our attention, I don't think that I've ever managed to read more than 2 lines of your ramblings.
  5. Hallberg Rassy Launched a new 57 Footer

    I agree with you that smart companies manufacture what people want to buy. Nevertheless for the going put of the cockpit bit I disagree, you can set up a slab reefing system that can be operated from the cockpit. My 70 years old dad reefs his 37 footer (OK much lighter than a HR) in less than 3 minutes from within the cockpit. It's really simple (smoke the mainsheet and the kicker, let the halyard go till the mark tighten the reef line (the hardest bit), if need be adjust the tension in the halyard, and finally tune the mainsheet and the kicker)
  6. Hallberg Rassy Launched a new 57 Footer

    Yes, I don't understand why people insist on replacing slab reefing by systems which are more complicated, more expensive and less reliable!
  7. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    It really depends of the traffic, crossing a shipping lane at speed is easy, going through a fleet of fishing boats zigzaging in random directions and showing confusing lights can definitely be dangerous. It also depends of the kind of sails you are using, if you can gybe / tack within 10 seconds it is easier than if you need to plan 5 or 10 minutes in advance.
  8. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Doh, too many races to follow... Thanks.
  9. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Mitigation measures I don't know if you remember but 2 editions ago, they went through the malacca strait. It wasn't windy so it turned out OK even if there were videos showing how crazy the traffic was. With the VOR route now zigzaging across the globe, they are now bound to find areas on their path with lot of traffic where doing 20 knots at night is marginal safety wise. Let's say that when they realise that the fleet will go through such a patch, they add two gates, one before and one after and give a minimum time between the 2 marks to respect. So effectively it neutralises the race between the 2 gates (if you come in 1 hours behind a competitor you come out 1 hour behind) and skippers can adapt their speed without loosing out. I think that's a fair way to deal with this.
  10. Fwd/Aft Moving Pedestal

    Indeed, the moving pedestal is a bit of a gimmick.
  11. Fwd/Aft Moving Pedestal

    IOR boats were a bit weird, moving a lot of water but on a well designed hull IMHO tiller works well up to 10t - 15t (20 000 - 30 000lbs) displacement.
  12. Fwd/Aft Moving Pedestal

    For sailing in places where the weather is not always clement, my dream would be a tiller outside for having the option to properly feel the boat when it's nice and a small wheel somewhere sheltered from where you can access the sheets for when you just have to "drive" the boat whatever the conditions.
  13. Fwd/Aft Moving Pedestal

    +1 Even if I had the cash, I am not sure that I would want to deal with so much complexity.
  14. stormy petrel

    San Francisco and New York seem windy enough... Wind isn't always the right solution but there ought to be more than a few places where it works
  15. Mods and IRC impact

    Oooops... Sorry Cats rule.
  16. stormy petrel

    Why can't you generate the power close to where it is used?
  17. Sailors Powerboat

    I don't think so. People here tend to use inflatable.
  18. Mods and IRC impact

    I think that the general wisdom is that a carbon mast will benefit you more than the penalty on the TCC. At least this is what some of the top IRC boats in Brittany seem to think as aluminium masts get swapped for CF ones. Bizarrely contrary to what cats rule has witnessed in the UK, people here tend to use symmetric sails inshore and asymmetric offshore.
  19. Sailors Powerboat

    pogo loxo
  20. stormy petrel

    It isn't a scam, commercial companies wouldn't offer lower prices with wind, they need margins. Wind power alone represents more than 10% of the UK energy mix, in the early noughties, it was closer to 1% (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_the_United_Kingdom), it is now "a clean energy of scale" that is much cheaper than nuclear ( https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/23/drop-in-wind-energy-costs-adds-pressure-for-government-rethink ) Sure there are technical challenges ahead especially on storage but wind is not a scam, it works at the moment as a cost effective way to replace some fossil fuel power, eventually engineers will figure out how to scale up again, the cheaper technology tend to eventually win and I can't see how nuclear, coal or oil will be able to compete as fuel becomes more and more expensive due to scarcity.
  21. stormy petrel

  22. stormy petrel

    It is not cherry picking at all, I've just shown that your statement is false, also the UK is 65 million people so not exactly a small market (1.5 times California population). If you state that "all swans are white" and I can find a black swan, that's good enough to show that your statement is wrong. When you try to do things a bit differently IME some people will tell you that it isn't possible just because they fear change. This is just what we are seeing now.
  23. stormy petrel

    This is already happening in the UK : http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41220948
  24. Pogo Structures...are they closed for business?

    Did you manage to talk to them at the end?
  25. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Assuming that they've hit an unlit boat, do you think that they could expect redress?