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  1. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Maybe we could stuff Schakel & Alinghi into a 44 gallon drum and take turns belting it with baseball bats for 2 weeks straight? Just to give them an idea on what it would be like to straight line it down the African coast?
  2. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    I'd love to see them pull a Groupama and smash the African coast for nothing else but the spectacle of someone taking a flier and watching how it pans out.
  3. Boots

    A couple of years ago I managed to snag a pair of Chameau Neptune's being thrown out at a commercial fishing supplier who were trying to get rid of stock. They were being sold as "fishing" boots so they didn't have that "yachting" price tag. They were so cheap I actually questioned their price as I was sure they had made a mistake. I've had them for 9 years now and they still look brand new. After an offshore race give them a wipe over with armor all spray. I find my feet also get sweaty inside them but damn they stay warm and the gaiter is a must offshore, plus if they do get wet inside they dry out so quickly. I'd had enough of leather boots as they take forever to dry out if they get wet inside, plus I would destroy the toes crawling around on the foredeck. I stumbled across these the other day https://www.amazon.com/Purofort-Comfort-Safety-Shoes-E262673/dp/B00NNQCMAE I wonder what they would be like? They look a bit more heavy duty than normal cheap sailing rubber boots but not stupidly expensive like Le Chameau or Dubarry. Could be a good in between option?
  4. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Geeze, tough crowd. Who hasn't thrown the odd sheet or halyard spaghetti factory and hoped for the best when the pressure is on, you win some you lose some, shit happens.
  5. Which Smock to buy

    Can't be any worse than the old Line 7 PVC days. I've done a couple of Hobarts doing the dinghy smock & jacket combo and found it worked really well. It gives you way more options while still keeping you dry. A dinghy smock rolls up into fuck all space so why not take one as well. Also helps to keep the green ones from going down your neck if you aren't wearing the hood on your jacket. It's offshore racing, you are still going to sweat, get wet and get cold no matter what you wear.
  6. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    I totally agree, this is the kind of stuff I want to see as well. The Scallywag video with everyone having a laugh and dropping f bombs and taking the piss out of each other is great because it sounds like every boat I've raced on, I can relate to that. The rock music videos from the last edition just make it feel plastic.
  7. Syd-Hobart Yachts, Where are they Now?

    From memory I think it ended up on the bottom? I can vaguely remember it on the news, a nasty swell causing havoc with boats trying to get crew on board before the start, bow got wedged under the pier. Was that the same year they closed the heads for 24 hours?
  8. VOR 2017-18

    So Turner has pushed to evolve the event but ran smack bang into a financial brick wall? Dalts is faced with the exact same problem and is trying to reign in costs for the Cup. It's happening everywhere. Do we try and scale back the Volvo? What about fully crewed non-stop and eliminate the costs of stop overs and associated logistics/staff costs? Or reduce the number of stopovers to 1 or 2? Plow that money into better 24/7 media coverage? Go non-stop but change the start/finish location every edition?
  9. Australian Challenge

    I don't think Andrew Forrest would be even remotely interested in a dick measuring contest that is the America's Cup. The guy just dontated something like $400 million to various charities and research departments. Would you rather be remembered for helping to eradicate cancer or winning the Cup? Especially in this current economic climate I just don't see anyone in Aus who would be willing to hang their nuts on the line for little in return. Who in Aus has that raging ego like Bond and actually has the will to go balls deep into it? James Packer and Lachlan Murdoch come to mind as maybe having that sailing & patriotic link, but even then I think they are smart enough to realise the Cup is just a big pissing contest, what would they get out of it? The 70's & 80's were a perfect Cup storm for Australia, we were starting to grow on the world business stage, Bond saw it as an opportunity to show the rest of the world that Australia was ready to do business with the big kids. It opened doors for him, he could get something out of it, stroke my ego and show me the money, he thrived off that shit. It's a different world now, those who have the money to play with spend it much more wisely. Without the big ego players and a general public who give zero fucks about a yacht race I don't see it happening unfortunately.
  10. McGregor v. Mayweather

    It's insane money. I have absolutely zero knowledge of anything MMA related, how does that payday compare to what they earn at the top in MMA?
  11. Rolex Fastnet Race 2017

    Must be fun trimming the main while trying to keep that giant dildo dry at the same time https://www.instagram.com/p/BXSa46OFEAE/?taken-by=cqs_racing
  12. Dennis Conner 1988 catamaran win video?

    Watching that footage, I've come to the conclusion that for any future Cup press conferences there must be a mandatory piss drinking session prior to sitting down and talking to the media. Those 80's pressers were fucking awesome compared to today's clinical corporate shit. Let's ban the high end fashion hand bag sponsors and mandate that teams can now only be sponsored by breweries. Nationality rules and booze, that is what will bring some fire back to the Cup.
  13. Team Australia

    I think most syndicates still need that squillionaire backer to kick things off though and then the sponsors start getting on the bandwagon once they see someone is willing to hang their balls out there. Pretty sure ETNZ would have been dead without Matteo? I don't think there is anyone in Aus who really has that raging ego like Packer & Bond did and who willingly want to piss money up the wall for a yacht race. Look at someone like Andrew 'Twiggy' Forrest who has just donated $400 odd million towards social and scientific causes. He could fund an Aussie challenge using the spare change in his back pocket. But lets face it, would you rather be remembered for maybe funding a cancer cure or winning a yacht race that most of the general population don't give a fuck about. I'm sure the money is there in Aus, but I think the people in charge of it prefer to use it a bit more wisely in this day and age.
  14. Get real, the America's cup is long dead

    I kind of see the Cup as being a bit like the Olympics. I'd be happy to see Greece handed the Olympics and be done with it, fuck moving it every 4 years. Fuck off all the screwing various countries out of dollars and leaving massive infrastructure behind that is useless for anything else. Your race will be held here, at this time of day, in these conditions, every 4 years and if you want to win it, deal with it. Would the Cup be better off being given a permanent home? Keep all the infrastructure in the same spot, you would know what conditions to expect, you could start training whenever you wanted. The costs would be easier to forecast. The Kiwi's showed you can be late to the party and still walk away with it. Sponsors and TV broadcasters know what times it will be shown around the world so can factor that in when negotiating $$$. The winner gets to take the Cup home for display and piss drinking purposes but must be brought back to fight over it again like little kids.
  15. Viewership & Ratings?

    I wonder what the return would be if they organised to stream it live worldwide for a fee vs farming it out to the highest broadcast bidders?