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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Flotsam from CF

    I make good gwacmollie but the recipe is pretty...on the fly and by taste. Cane you shoot vidio of you mackeng it? Mabey Billey Joel playeng in backgrounde? And finish up by spreading it on French toast with a nice wiggle!
  2. Flotsam from CF

    It was in the early 90's that every time I fired up Gopher for a search, my modem would reset. Damned nuisance. We should never have left ARPA-Net behind.
  3. Flotsam from CF

    Did you call the authorities to report child abuse? Did you call the authorities to report child endangerment? Why the fuck not???
  4. Flotsam from CF

    Oh, nooooo! You didn't!!! Tell me you didn't!! Just so you know, you've been reported to the mods here for cruelty to innocent newbies.
  5. Facts? We doan need no stink'n facts! If you want posts with no BS, you're in the wrong place entirely. Cruisers & Sailing Forums And just so you know, confused is the proper state for posting here, so get over it and Harden the Fuck UP. .

    Do remember, they had pretty stout seas. And a course to windward. And four, five hours fuel for the OB at most. I don't think they would have made it home by rib even after the wind eased and the seas dropped. It would be interesting to see a demo of your 65,000 lbs. making 8 Kt against 5-7 foot seas driven by your rib. Should be fun on board; take your wife and grandkids on that run. Just another picnic. Seems to me, these guys had a good survival strategy available: put out a drogue and wait out the wx and then clear the prop and motor "home." With a multimillion dollar vessel underneath, there would have to be more than a fallen rig and a line around the prop shaft to justify abandonment. Admittedly, a scared and seasick owner could, in fact, amount to a hell of a lot more. The whining of the owner's son might have grown intolerable. Or maybe they were worried about running out of rum. Even if you give these guys the benefit of the doubt on the decision to go given the forecast, the decision to abandon seems a bit unprofessional unless there is more than has been said. Those who defend the pros on board haven't offered up any explanation for that state of affairs -- even as hearsay or speculation. A defense based on the representation that they are "good guys" is no defense at all. I'll happily concede that they are good guys, but that has nothing to do with the abandonment of RM. And the fact that the pros are "good guys" has nothing to do with the fact that the rig came down. Even good guys can have occurances of human error. And being good guys can't prevent component failure, whether that stems from poor engineering, poor construction, poor component fabrication or poor boat handling in robust conditions. Then there's the issue of right to know: we have none. Even the public funds expenditure argument has no teeth, since detailed reporting to the public of the causes of abandonments or the causes of damage that leads to abandonment is not the CG's mandate. On the other hand, we have legitimate reasons to want to know. Perhaps as wanting to evaluate GB as a candidate builder for our next boat. Perhaps as sailors who are concerned with keeping our rigs standing and hoping to benefit from information about this mode of failure. Perhaps as sailors who are planning a voyage along the NC coast and wanting to know more about this sudden "microburst" that collapsed the rig or those who hope to learn more about "microbursts" and hope to learn enough to avoid them. Hall sticks are standing up quite well all over the world but there have been more than this one come down on a GB. What's up with that? And so on. At a certain point, the interests of those involved begin to diverge. Some of the parties potentially have a lot to lose and if they have a strong case that none of this mess is on them, they will have a considerable incentive to speak up to defend their interests. I suspect we'll hear something more in time. In the meantime, reputations continue to suffer because of the silence.

    Does SOMA understand that in the winter months in this area of the The Atlantic and north you better have a minimum of 3 days of good weather when you leave? I have sailed these waters for 40 years and couldn't tell you how many times! I have even pitch poled a mono-hull 300 miles off this same coast in late December. ( No Coastguard assistance). We lost the mast and got back to NC. 6 days later. Something smells fishy why they left when they did. NO, YOU are WRONG! We have already been told by someone who wasnt on board that the top experienced 28 yr old GB skipper with disruptive technology and a multi millionaire onboard knows more than old experienced people. Have you been listening? Keep up with the group! People living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. (or take them offshore in the winter) Ever heard of irony? I think subtile irony is lost on quite a few around here. It appears that Kent ... stongly implied, sotto voce, "Modern delivery skippers in disruptive boats can do things we cannot and they have no problem with January storms" ... until they do have problems. Like the ones being discussed. Pay closer attention.

    Like a wave? Chance in a million. nah. it will be fine. no cardboard Didn't you mean CDX?
  9. Tom, Makes me proud to be a Californicator and a San Franciscoian. But I will point out that some pretty incredible idiots have come from other places. I'd like to think we have a monopoly on pure, concentrated dumb sauce, it's what makes living here really rewarding, but Reid The Cheese Man? Pretty nutsoid. Anyone who could put together a video like Void-Ho is someone that should be institutionalize with extreme prejudice. Rimus? Not even sure how this guy is alive. I always thought drifting around the ocean was fairly dangerous, especially to the incompetent, but I guess not. There was also that idiot who bought some wooden POS boat down in Florida and got all bent out of shape when everyone here pointed out he was obviously an idiot with a POS wooden boat. He hit the upper corner the Anger Issues vs. Cheap-scape vs. Dickwad chart. Not DefCon Ried-Level 5, but pretty fun for a few days. I'm sure there are many more I can't remember. I think our (CA/SF) only real claim to fame is just how far "out there" our locals are. HR and The Tin Man are monumental examples of just how far the lack of skill will take a well motivated, delusional fool (It appears to be about 150 miles offshore for the record). It makes me all warm and fuzzy just thinking about it. Florida needs to step up their game. The raw material is certainly there. Florida has the highest Git-R-Done Retard Ratio of any state, bar none. With all the water access and heavy drug use it seems like you guys should be putting out a Reid a month. I came close to driving across the state to see that Dirty30 guy. He was in full meltdown when MR CLEAN ruined the fun by calming him down. Oh well. I must say, if anything like the FH materializes in my area, I'll do a much better job covering it than our San Fran anarchists did. At one point in this thread, I was threatening to drive one of my dinghies all the way to California just so we could get a boat on the scene. We all mourn the apparent loss of lilmurray, but that should not have meant all on-scene reporting stopped. They make Kevlar gloves, you know! I see that you're quite the man of action, almost doing the things that you criticize others for not doing. There's a good chance that the folks in the Bay Area have better things to spend their time doing than catering to the curiosity of people that are bored with counting geckos and wondering which foot taps to a 2 string banjo! That's mighty bold for a one-eyed fat man, newbie. Show us some tits and hush the fuck up. All the banjos in Florida have three strings, but we'll give you three steps, mister, if we don't see you no more.
  10. Speaking of Dirty30, anyone know where the Sea Witch is now? Has it been turned into a Viking funeral barge yet? Has it moved yet? Has it sunk? Inquiring minds want to know. Where is Dirty posting now? I think Clean owes us an investigative report on that one since he's the one who took all the zest out of Dirty's life and pushed him out of that thread.
  11. Paying passengers on an uninspected vessel with an unlicensed operator? Does the CG know? Maybe HotRod has hit the big time at last.
  12. SPOILER ALERT!!! HotRod becomes gainfully employed building Rainmaker II. He keeps the job so far under budget he can work in Flyin' Hawaiin II along side. The job is profitable enough to fund his retirement to The Big Island and live happily ever after with his devoted crew.
  13. And maybe some ping pong balls?
  14. Coolboats to admire

    You have permission to take them down on your boat as soon as your check clears.
  15. I'd suggest you steer clear of mirrors, mate. And about those lawyers: just remember: Dick: The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. Cade: Nay, that I mean to do. Henry The Sixth, Part 2 Act 4, scene 2, 71–78 These were (wannabe) conspirators planning the overthrow of the government. You can look it up for yourself; don't take my word for it. A little Shakespeare can be the start of something good.