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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I make good gwacmollie but the recipe is pretty...on the fly and by taste. Cane you shoot vidio of you mackeng it? Mabey Billey Joel playeng in backgrounde? And finish up by spreading it on French toast with a nice wiggle!
  2. It was in the early 90's that every time I fired up Gopher for a search, my modem would reset. Damned nuisance. We should never have left ARPA-Net behind.
  3. Did you call the authorities to report child abuse? Did you call the authorities to report child endangerment? Why the fuck not???
  4. Oh, nooooo! You didn't!!! Tell me you didn't!! Just so you know, you've been reported to the mods here for cruelty to innocent newbies.
  5. Wow! This ain't HotRod, this is the return of Dirty30! It's his thread and if you don't answer his question his way, he'll flame your ass. As a nihilist, it's quite proper that he does not know, care or respect who's here. On the other hand, he's clearly off to see the Wizard and really doesn't look like a long time participant unless he catches on to the facts of SA life. Until now, I've limited myself to spectating in this thread, as I'm not an engineer and don't know enough to contradict or confirm the advice given by the experienced and the professionals on the thread. On the other hand, I do know hubris when I see it: the OP has chosen a path as is looking for confirmation of his brilliance (already confirmed - mostly - by his local expert). A proper backing plate is more difficult and may require him to remove a section of the overhead so the installation doesn't intrude on his beautious interior, so he rejects the proper way entirely and resents those who tell him the facts. I think he should be a better fit over at Sail Net http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=161416&hl=or Cruisers Forum http://www.cruisersforum.com/. He ain't ready for SA and he's heading for a miserable time here. I'll suggest that he go there or at least read the Dirty30 thread http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=161416&hl= and adjust his attitude accordingly.
  6. Oh, you'll fit right in! As soon as you provide a peek at your gf's/wife's/sister's tits. Otherwise, HTFU, newbie.
  7. Think about this: you have a developed voice with your imaginary friend and in the forums, that's what we hear and that's pretty okay. Soon, you'll be reading Wind in the Willows aloud to a new friend, and you'll be developing a new and very different voice for a not-so-imaginary person. Once you figure out that you can speak with more than one voice, you have the freedom to choose which to use in differing contexts. I don't take offense to crude or profane language on the front page or in the threads. But as the intro to SA of visitors in many instances, it can be a harsh and sometimes off-putting occasion. Your choice, in the context of "you never get a second chance to make a first impression." What is that message hidden in your voice that you want to convey to that kid visiting SA on the front page for the first time? 1) Why do you dislike swearing on the front page? I don't mind it in the least. But I do understand the reluctance of parents to encourage their kids into engagements with swearing when it's reasonably avoidable. There's a bit difference between what the kids know and what the parents choose to teach them. That's a lesson you'll learn when your time comes. 2) Do you ban your kids from reading SA because of the language? My kid is past the stage where I can ban anything. When he was a pup, before SA's time, I vigorously opposed him watching that (then) new show, The Simpsons, because I didn't want him to think I found Bart and Homer acceptable examples of male behavior. Of course he got exposed anyway, at friend's homes, etc., but he learned rather thoroughly that Bart was not a very good role model. The issue is broader than just swearing. 3) Would you drive your kids to SA to read about sailing if there were no swearing, I was eager to introduce my son to sailing and to the vastly diverse culture associated with sailing. At the same time, I felt I had to temper his experiences a bit. I didn't take him to Marmadukes or the Wharf back when they were sawdust on the floor bars back before Eastport got gentrified. That meant he missed a few instances of blood on the floor and a lot of other things, including swearing, that as a pup he didn't need me to endorse. Wasn't any SA at the time, but if had been around in it's current form, I probably would have kept him away while I could. and 4) how old are your kids? Old enough now to choose SA if he wants. And sometimes he does. A parting thought for you: your time to teach your kid will be short and you have to make the most of it while you can. Your voice will begin to fade by first grade. You can set the standards - or not - as you see fit. At the same time, you're going to blink the first time you hear your kid say "fuck." Even then, if you're really good at this perenting thing, you'll get to steer that occasion into a temperate zone of "right time and right place" judgment on the use of swearing. But just be aware, that nothing ever dies on the internet and sooner or later your kid will know all of your SA history, swearing, you bashing your detractors, you being bashed, your rants and etc. How are you going to shape those things to be what they will see of your career at SA? Maybe you could even be a good journalist for a good enough reason. Good luck to you and your lady.
  8. Facts? We doan need no stink'n facts! If you want posts with no BS, you're in the wrong place entirely. Cruisers & Sailing Forums And just so you know, confused is the proper state for posting here, so get over it and Harden the Fuck UP. .
  9. Do remember, they had pretty stout seas. And a course to windward. And four, five hours fuel for the OB at most. I don't think they would have made it home by rib even after the wind eased and the seas dropped. It would be interesting to see a demo of your 65,000 lbs. making 8 Kt against 5-7 foot seas driven by your rib. Should be fun on board; take your wife and grandkids on that run. Just another picnic. Seems to me, these guys had a good survival strategy available: put out a drogue and wait out the wx and then clear the prop and motor "home." With a multimillion dollar vessel underneath, there would have to be more than a fallen rig and a line around the prop shaft to justify abandonment. Admittedly, a scared and seasick owner could, in fact, amount to a hell of a lot more. The whining of the owner's son might have grown intolerable. Or maybe they were worried about running out of rum. Even if you give these guys the benefit of the doubt on the decision to go given the forecast, the decision to abandon seems a bit unprofessional unless there is more than has been said. Those who defend the pros on board haven't offered up any explanation for that state of affairs -- even as hearsay or speculation. A defense based on the representation that they are "good guys" is no defense at all. I'll happily concede that they are good guys, but that has nothing to do with the abandonment of RM. And the fact that the pros are "good guys" has nothing to do with the fact that the rig came down. Even good guys can have occurances of human error. And being good guys can't prevent component failure, whether that stems from poor engineering, poor construction, poor component fabrication or poor boat handling in robust conditions. Then there's the issue of right to know: we have none. Even the public funds expenditure argument has no teeth, since detailed reporting to the public of the causes of abandonments or the causes of damage that leads to abandonment is not the CG's mandate. On the other hand, we have legitimate reasons to want to know. Perhaps as wanting to evaluate GB as a candidate builder for our next boat. Perhaps as sailors who are concerned with keeping our rigs standing and hoping to benefit from information about this mode of failure. Perhaps as sailors who are planning a voyage along the NC coast and wanting to know more about this sudden "microburst" that collapsed the rig or those who hope to learn more about "microbursts" and hope to learn enough to avoid them. Hall sticks are standing up quite well all over the world but there have been more than this one come down on a GB. What's up with that? And so on. At a certain point, the interests of those involved begin to diverge. Some of the parties potentially have a lot to lose and if they have a strong case that none of this mess is on them, they will have a considerable incentive to speak up to defend their interests. I suspect we'll hear something more in time. In the meantime, reputations continue to suffer because of the silence.
  10. Does SOMA understand that in the winter months in this area of the The Atlantic and north you better have a minimum of 3 days of good weather when you leave? I have sailed these waters for 40 years and couldn't tell you how many times! I have even pitch poled a mono-hull 300 miles off this same coast in late December. ( No Coastguard assistance). We lost the mast and got back to NC. 6 days later. Something smells fishy why they left when they did. NO, YOU are WRONG! We have already been told by someone who wasnt on board that the top experienced 28 yr old GB skipper with disruptive technology and a multi millionaire onboard knows more than old experienced people. Have you been listening? Keep up with the group! People living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. (or take them offshore in the winter) Ever heard of irony? I think subtile irony is lost on quite a few around here. It appears that Kent ... stongly implied, sotto voce, "Modern delivery skippers in disruptive boats can do things we cannot and they have no problem with January storms" ... until they do have problems. Like the ones being discussed. Pay closer attention.
  11. Like a wave? Chance in a million. nah. it will be fine. no cardboard Didn't you mean CDX?
  12. Tom, Makes me proud to be a Californicator and a San Franciscoian. But I will point out that some pretty incredible idiots have come from other places. I'd like to think we have a monopoly on pure, concentrated dumb sauce, it's what makes living here really rewarding, but Reid The Cheese Man? Pretty nutsoid. Anyone who could put together a video like Void-Ho is someone that should be institutionalize with extreme prejudice. Rimus? Not even sure how this guy is alive. I always thought drifting around the ocean was fairly dangerous, especially to the incompetent, but I guess not. There was also that idiot who bought some wooden POS boat down in Florida and got all bent out of shape when everyone here pointed out he was obviously an idiot with a POS wooden boat. He hit the upper corner the Anger Issues vs. Cheap-scape vs. Dickwad chart. Not DefCon Ried-Level 5, but pretty fun for a few days. I'm sure there are many more I can't remember. I think our (CA/SF) only real claim to fame is just how far "out there" our locals are. HR and The Tin Man are monumental examples of just how far the lack of skill will take a well motivated, delusional fool (It appears to be about 150 miles offshore for the record). It makes me all warm and fuzzy just thinking about it. Florida needs to step up their game. The raw material is certainly there. Florida has the highest Git-R-Done Retard Ratio of any state, bar none. With all the water access and heavy drug use it seems like you guys should be putting out a Reid a month. I came close to driving across the state to see that Dirty30 guy. He was in full meltdown when MR CLEAN ruined the fun by calming him down. Oh well. I must say, if anything like the FH materializes in my area, I'll do a much better job covering it than our San Fran anarchists did. At one point in this thread, I was threatening to drive one of my dinghies all the way to California just so we could get a boat on the scene. We all mourn the apparent loss of lilmurray, but that should not have meant all on-scene reporting stopped. They make Kevlar gloves, you know! I see that you're quite the man of action, almost doing the things that you criticize others for not doing. There's a good chance that the folks in the Bay Area have better things to spend their time doing than catering to the curiosity of people that are bored with counting geckos and wondering which foot taps to a 2 string banjo! That's mighty bold for a one-eyed fat man, newbie. Show us some tits and hush the fuck up. All the banjos in Florida have three strings, but we'll give you three steps, mister, if we don't see you no more.
  13. Speaking of Dirty30, anyone know where the Sea Witch is now? Has it been turned into a Viking funeral barge yet? Has it moved yet? Has it sunk? Inquiring minds want to know. Where is Dirty posting now? I think Clean owes us an investigative report on that one since he's the one who took all the zest out of Dirty's life and pushed him out of that thread.
  14. Paying passengers on an uninspected vessel with an unlicensed operator? Does the CG know? Maybe HotRod has hit the big time at last.
  15. SPOILER ALERT!!! HotRod becomes gainfully employed building Rainmaker II. He keeps the job so far under budget he can work in Flyin' Hawaiin II along side. The job is profitable enough to fund his retirement to The Big Island and live happily ever after with his devoted crew.