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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Next part: ALC: "I really didn’t have an easy ride up the Atlantic. I was 800 miles ahead at Cape Horn, and Alex came back to within 40 miles. I don’t think I made too many mistakes, the weather just wasn’t in my favour and it’s tough to deal with that. But I didn’t give up, and now… today’s great. I’m super happy” NHJ: "What do you take away from this VG, apart from your magnificent victory?" ALC: " Well it was intense right from the beginning all the way to the end. I feel as if I left yesterday. Really didn’t see time pass, there was no break, no respite. Maybe after Cape Horn when I was ahead I perhaps gave myself a couple of hours to relax, but right after that the weather was not good so I had to concentrate again quickly. Also this is my third (VG) and I knew this was the one I needed to go and get, so I really wanted to go all out. I told myself this is my chance. It wasn’t easy 4 years ago, and I wanted to avoid the same thing again so badly that I really fought all the way to the end." Other NHJ: you haven’t communicated much on this, but did you have technical problems? ALC: no major problems that handicapped me. The only significant one was the hook on my J1, which broke in the Pacific so I couldn’t use the sail after that. It’s a useful sail close-hauled in lighter winds, but I had a Code 0 so I could more or less compensate. Unfortunately after that I learned the other hooks were made the same way, so there was a chance they would fail too. So I had that threat hanging over me during that part of the VG until the finish, hoping that the other parts wouldn't fail. So I had to preserve the gear, avoid putting too much stress on the gear when things got intense, to prevent further breakage". NHJ: "did you get some pleasure from the duel with Alex? ALC: Yes, there was pleasure in the fight, also in the weather routing and strategy, I took a lot of pleasure in the Pacific in particular. I felt I was in sync with the weather, the strategy was going well. Cape Horn was a super moment, and then the arrival was really great. Also a lot of messages from people. NHJ: a word about your challenger, Alex Thomson? He really gave you a hard time, didn't he? ALC: Yes, he ran a super race. I knew he was one of the serious contenders, Fearsome competitor, and feared! He had some good conditions in the Atlantic to close in on me. I really thought I had made the break, and that wasn't the case. So I had to hang on right up to the very end. (Section in English, comments on Alex, good boat, good speed reaching, gave Armel a tough time). NHJ: After 74 days at sea, what does one need? ALC (picking up his kids) "These guys here!"
  2. Well, he broke his armour actually twice. He broke into tears during the first interview on the bow of his boat (before the channel) when asked after the stress he had endured, see the video (French only) here in the first minute. Worth watching for all who want to see the human side of Armel. Hopefully someone can give a translation of that piece of the interview. Here is the first part (I'll do the rest when the VG video stops freezing at 1'10") News-hungry journo: “So, right now, what do you feel?” Armel *big smile* “It’s huge. Incredible. I don’t really realize yet what’s happened to me. The last few days have been very intense, so, yeah, there… I realize I’ve achieved something enormous, and it’s fantastic “(smiles). NHJ: “Did you have days with tension, stress?” ALC: “I gave away nothing. Not one metre. It was… Every metre is so hard won, and…*pause, emotion* I wanted that victory so badly! *tears* voila, I’ve succeeded. *more tears* I’m so happy. There.” NHJ: “Did you have doubts after Cape Horn, when Alex came back?” ALC: “Well, *tears*, sorry, *pause* the weather really wasn’t easy. *Coughs*. I had the impression everything was against me. And then I worked hard (literally: I hung on) and it worked out OK. I really fought hard and had a lot of good support from people; they sent me messages telling me don’t give up, hang in there (wipes tears), and I really believed in it. Finally I only started seeing victory last night, after Ushant. I knew then that I had it, all I had to do was get to the finish. On top of that I was in my home territory, in an area I know really well, so I got a lot of pleasure from that.
  3. BP8 sold to Louis Burton.
  4. ... and a huge, huge thank you to forss, Herman and others for the software, hard work and insights that have made this race a pleasure to follow.
  5. Congratulations to Armel and his team for a great achievement, and to Alex for making this edition of the VG a great race.
  6. Yes but the cluster of boats following ALC is not visible.
  7. Yes, website/organisation shoots itself in foot. I'm watching it live on BFMtv Same here. Good coverage and commentary by Desjoyeaux himself.
  8. Banque Populaire's AIS is not showing on Marinetraffic or Vesselfinder.com The Royal Atlantic AIS is no longer showing on Marinetraffic (off for the past 5 hours) Alex - OK we know he's had problems with his. A bit too much of a coincidence for my taste. I won't be clicking on the VG's cartography pages.
  9. Article on VG site confirms that ALC did not sail through the TSS. http://www.vendeeglobe.org/fr/actualites/18217/histoire-de-dst
  10. It's now looking to be an incredibly tight finish between JPD and YE/JLC.
  11. No sign of Hugo Boss on AIS?
  12. stief Remora/forss's 400nm split relies heavily on Armel clearing the doldrums on or before the next sked at 0400 and Alex staying glued. Looking at tbeir actual numbers versus forecasts that may well not happen. [...] Agree--and AFAIK, they use the same polar for all. Gives a great way to compare forecasts, and actual/ projected tracks. Since Cape Horn, so many have been confidently predicting Alex's demise. Fun to watch the nervousness when he keeps on surprising the doubters. Even if Armel does win, he'll only win over a wounded boat. I think Alex 'won' the race already, and hope to see that in the Canal. We don't really know what damage there has been on BP. At this stage, Armel would probably settle quite happily for "just" the conventional win. Fascinating race all the way. I wasn't a big AT fan previously, but I must say he has won me over this edition: he has put together a great program with a fast boat that he has sailed very well while remaining one of the most engaging communicators in the race (along with Conrad and a few others).
  13. I had never heard of (or paid any attention to) Sodebo before they started sponsoring Coville. Compared to buying TV spots, the sort of exposure their brand has received from years of sponsoring sailing has to be significantly cheaper, not to mention all the positive values involved.
  14. Well he just made his luck by making a difficult transition sailing on the talking edge of a system. Similar to Armel did a couple of times before that were called excellent weather routing! Yes luck is involved but you have to sail well to take your luck! That was precisely my point. A few days ago Armel picked up 500 nm and for some here he just was "lucky".
  15. Alex is quite lucky with the weather at the moment. Just sayin'...