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  1. I have raced in Rio twice. Both regattas had dead bodies floating on the race course.
  2. This one is an aside but amusing... Back in the late 1980's in Erie, PA the local MORC fleet had a race that took the fleet from Presque Isle Bay through a dredged ship channel out to a mark in Lake Erie and back. The first leg was a run, but the return leg of the race requires short tacking through the channel which is about 400 yards wide and is also the location of the local CG station. On the return leg as the boats were tacking through the channel a local Coast Guardsman in a RIB started ordering and screaming at the boats to the take down their sails. The CG said the race was illegal and the racers were violating the law. Not a single boat complied with the orders and kept on racing. Our local Congressman was racing on a boat that we had been in a tacking duel with. The Congressman did not identify himself but we did hear him yell at the Coastguardsman that the race was absolutely legal and he should check with the local Commander. The Coast Guardsman was furious his orders were questioned, motored over to the Congressman's boat and physically placed his boat in front of the sailboat screaming to take down the sails. We kept racing but the Congressman's boat, was forced to withdraw from the race and take down the sails. We left the club before the Congressman's boat docked, but a week or so later a formal letter of apology from the Commandant of the USCG was posted on our club race announcement board and stated the Coast Guardsman who lost his cool that day would receive disciplinary action. The moral of the story for the USCG, don't scream at a US Congressmann that he's breaking the law unless you know he's really breaking the law.
  3. At the first RS Aero North Americans this year we sailed all the rigs together as one fleet with no handicap adjustments, and allowed people to switch rigs during the event too if they wished. But the RS Aero class rules do call for the different rigs to be scored separately, or using PY handicaps if different rigs are competing with each other. The class rules also have some restrictions on rig switching during a handicap regatta. It looks as if in some major UK regattas there has been a "best of both worlds" approach with most of the races having the three rigs with their own starts, but with the first race each day being a mass start for all three rigs that, as well as separate fleet scoring, was also scored on handicap (partly so they could award overall first master, first female, first junior awards too.) I think I have that right. No doubt one of the UK guys will correct me if I don't! I guess the real answer to your question will be that how we run the major North American regattas next year will be something the North American RS Aero Class will have to decide - once we get around to forming it, and based on feedback from sailors of what system they would prefer. As a prospective owner who will probably place an order for a boat after the holiday season, I would vote for sticking with how scoring at the NA's went this year. Let everyone switch and choose rigs as they want. There can be sub-fleet championships for folks who want to stick with a single rig for the entire regatta.
  4. I am in the market for a new singlehander. I emailed Melges a few months go to put a deposit down on the M14, but no one got back to me despite promising a follow-up. After that, a job change got in the way and I didn't chase the Melges guys. (Should I have to chase them down to take my money?) I am now ready to dive in again and still like the M14 as it is the sexier of the two options I am considering. The problem is the M14 seems stalled. The email blast offering special pricing reads to me there is frustration that the boats aren't moving. The highest hull number I am aware of is #5 which is a little better than one boat every two months since they launched in January. In the mean time a fleet of Aeros is now up and running in my part of the world and the class seems to be taking off so I am now back to undecided.
  5. Saw the Melges site is listing a new boat, the M14, but there are no links for further information. Anyone know what it is? I am assuming a new one man Scow or dinghy but that is just an assumption.