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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. http://www.yachtingworld.com/features/volvo-boats-tricky-beasts-sail-say-volvo-ocean-race-crews-61245 "In the past a stronger breeze simply meant sailing deeper. Now crews try to generate as much righting moment as they can with the lighter keel bulb and allow the boat to heel more. The stack above and below decks is crucial as it represents a greater proportion of overall righting moment, and its fore and aft position is also more critical as the 65s have more hull rocker and so trim more readily. The additional heel means that the keel fin is closer to the water surface and more prone to ventilation, all of which adds up to a more twitchy boat that is sailing on her ear at speed." https://www.seahorsemagazine.com/24-content/august-2013/134-leading-edge - 2013 vintage Technical Feature on the VOR 65 with a Farr Design wonk explaining the whole keel theory... "An inclined keel pin axis has a number of positive effects on performance. First, it creates a large vertical lift force on the keel fin which reduces the effective displacement of the yacht, which in turn reduces the wetted surface and drag of the entire yacht system. Second, even when canted and heeled, the keel fin creates a positive side force which reduces leeway angle. This is a significant factor for high beam to draft hull forms such as this one, because they present a very asymmetric shape to the water as they heel. As leeway is reduced the amount of asymmetry also reduces, providing a substantial associated reduction in form and residuary resistance." And an even more nerdy version: http://www.sname.org/HigherLogic/System/DownloadDocumentFile.ashx?DocumentFileKey=8ddb6944-8a58-4c8a-977b-6b3636705a97
  2. Believe that's so. It's an interesting development, and a complex equation. One thing that struck me is the large heel angles the crews sail the VOR65s at - I suspect these are larger than the designers envisaged. I do wonder if the lift-generating keel is part reason for this. The canting keel creates lift with a tilted axis but in doing so actually decreases righting moment. I guess the theory is that the drag reduction caused through reducing displacement via the keel lift outweights the loss of power caused by reduced RM. This is the exact opposite of what's happening on the AC Catamarans where they are angling the windward rudder the other way to actually increase RM - but with a foiling boat it's a whole different equation as dispacement changes barely change drag once foiling. To me tilting the keel axis that way is counter-intuitive as the lift created by the keel foil operates well to windward of the lateral centre of buoyancy (especially on a wide boat with a chine like an IMOCA 60 or VOR 65) and hence would tend to heel the boat by rolling it around LCB as much as lifting it. Compare that with a DSS or IMOCA-style foil which creates its lift to leeward of the Lateral Centre of Buoyancy and hence both reduces displacement and increases power and RM. My intuition says tilt the canting keel axis the other way to actually increase apparent displacement, RM and power (increased displacement means more wave drag but form drag may reduce through sailing the boat flatter to offset that), but no doubt the designers have modelled the tradeoffs to get to the angles they are actually implementing.
  3. I think I do recall design features saying it was designed to produce lift. IIRC the keel rotation axis on VOR65s is tilted a few degrees - maybe 4?
  4. email Peter Shipway and ask if you can play.
  5. Crewed non-stop (of any decent duration) may make limited sense in 60 footers as you have to pack stores for each crew member for the duration, that's a lotta stuff for any decent sized crew. On top of that you also need the industrial grade water making capabilities VOR boats have now. Eben in 110 foot trimarans they sail relatively shorthanded RTW to limit the weight of stores.
  6. That'll be fun. I'm working on mobilising an ex Admirals Cupper for the event
  7. LB I suggest you visit Kings Cross. You sound about 10 years out of date...speaking as someone who lived there from 1992 - 2013 and raised a couple of kids in the area...
  8. I live around there. Major convenience, good schools, close to harbour and airport and not far to beaches. Property purchase and rental prices insane, which by Sydney standards is cheap.
  9. Great for Platoon to win the regatta without a bullet - pure consistency under pressure. Amazing curl up and die effort from Q Racing in race 8, just goes to show that at this level the margins for error are miniscule and psychology matters. Their speed looked fine, they just didn't get it together on the line or upwind. Allowed themselves to get caught to leeward of Platoon unable to tack away for a large slice of the first leg. Will be interesting to see how T Hutch reports this one in Seahorse, and a great learning opportunity for everyone if he's frank about what went screwy on the day. Awesome effort from Ran to take a penalty on the start line then finish 3rd in that hot a fleet, Gladiator also looked like making an epic comeback from a disastrous start until a tack line clip gave way at the hoist on the final leg.
  10. Is a Wittless team more or less likely to make mistakes than a Witty team?
  11. It's farly intuitive that VOR and the Americas Cup might consider a similar multi platform - essentially having two pinnacle events joining - even if just to the extent that they use the same inshore racing class. You mentioned that VOR aimed to have have action happining each and every year - that's an AC ambition too. Are we likely to see an announcement of coopertaion/integration between VOR and AC?
  12. Has that smell to it
  13. Possibly not if it is deemed that they retired due to the imminent hearing. Might make it worse for them under 69. If it is true that Scallywag is a soon to be announced VOR participant an adverse rule 69 finding would be more than a little awkward for both them and the VOR organisers...
  14. That's a useful traveller setup. I'd just stiffen the boom around the take-off with a sleeve or some carbon laminate. And do same at the vang take-off for good measure. IMHO would screw up the ergonomics to move it aft to a bridle even if it might be tempting to lose the track across the cockpit for better crew movement.