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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Do you mean less yawing? I can translate from French if that's easier.
  2. There are very few 70 foot proa's. Ollier's fatefull Rosières is the only one that I know of. Any references?
  3. Looking at the better pictures in http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/2017-everglades-challenge-57377.html it looks like it does rotate 360° with sail raised. I am not convinced that the mastwing was meant to stay up just like any other mast. Even when freely feathering the wind has its ways with wings with significant cross sections like this one. Even with the relatively short chord of the Chris White's Mastfoil I have not found a discussion to dispel the thought that this may have been the prime cause for the mast fail.
  4. I reckon the middle hull will atrophy down to a lightweather displacement accommodation module in the future. Less WSA and more leeward hull LWL for a given displacement...... ultimately morphing into a harryproa?
  5. Maybe infrared may be a better bet for small craft.
  6. I am curious too. Please, Charter it to find out and write all about it here ;-)
  7. Proas are one of the rare examples of a unique engineering solution that clashes with the innate expectation of our paleolithic mind that moving things have a head and a tail. It is much like the sci-fi movies adding sound to spaceships zipping through empty space. It makes no physical sense but only nerds would watch movies without that "special effect". It also goes to show that homo sapiens did not evolve while sailing and is genetically a newbie to that form of locomotion. Another hundred thousand of years of Darwinian selection and everybody will sail proas. Those with a HP60 have a head start ;-)
  8. Nice clean cats indeed. If you want to add better helm location (wheel cants inside or outside), dagger boards (/rudders combo), rotating masts and not pay more for all that the Harryproa cruiser 60 slotted for build in Peru sure is attractive.
  9. It is not because there have not been occasions to have comparable settings that HP's have not performed well. Enough have been built and sailed. The BL is simple enough to understand that one does not go out on a limb claiming that it will sail very well. The proof of the pudding is in the eating but when I see a picture of a ball I know it will roll down the hill. With other more contorted designs it may not be that straightforward to predict performance. The BL is designed for bare basic charter racing sophisticated only in its lack of esoterics and complication.
  10. As the OP I appreciate everyone's effort to keep this thread as civil as possible. The original topic was the Bucket List. The original issue was the self righting mechanism. The R2AK understandably crossed this thread but I would propose to leave out the issues that have already been debated at length in previous threads on various forums and have remained without resolution, despite. The participation of the Bieker proa in the R2AK merits the attention and discussion in its own thread. Thank you again.
  11. Thank you, Boink. Very well explained.
  12. The HP cruiser line rudder system looks much like in the photo's of the Luca Antara. Retractable spade rudders can be housed in the sailing hull. However, high in the SOR's are hassle free clearing weeds and simple low maintenance built. Without the horizontal wheels as in the previous system, the new rudder system should be low spray.
  13. Is this a theoretical knowledge or did you do experiments to find out? Do you have any clips of those? The adjective "pretty" is not a happy one in this context. Do you know what it would take hitting and deforming the leading edge of the foil to change its hydrodynamic characteristics such that it would change the boat's pitch, yaw or roll suddenly enough to warrant "seat belts" at speed? Thank you in advance.
  14. Not rather Len Surtees, designer of Outward Leg with a comment in http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/archive/t-37735.html
  15. Sonic tube explanation from the designer's notes off the web site From a reply to a question