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  1. A Farrier F9AXR appeared on my radar. What can you knowledgeable folks tell me about this particular model?
  2. Just read this piece in the Brazillian media (machine translated - original source, in Portuguese - : "Exclusive: Brazilian Manoel Chaves, from MCP Yachts, will go to court for rights to hydrofoils on the America's Cup 2021 sailboats Per Gilberto Ungaretti - October 24, 2020 0 2824 Respected naval engineer and boat builder, Brazilian Manoel Chaves, from MCP Yachts, reveals that the hydrofoils that equip America's Cup 2021 sailboats are patented by him, and that he will go to court to claim the credits for his creation The next edition of America's Cup , scheduled for March 2021, will have a new generation of monohull sailboats, called AC75, extremely sophisticated and with new concepts, starting with the revolutionary hydrofoil systems pivoted on the side. Designed to generate lift, so that, in parallel, they compensate for the movement of the sails, and, at the same time, decrease the dynamic displacement of the sailboat, these hydrofoils cause the boats to rise from the water and literally fly. The estimate is that the AC75 boats reach a speed five times higher than that of the real wind. Presented by the Emirates Team New Zealand - champion of the trophy after winning the America's Cup 2017 -, this revolutionary hydrofoil system has paternity recognized by patents: Brazilian businessman and naval engineer Manoel Chaves and his team of designers at MCP Yachts , one of the largest South American aluminum yacht builders, on the market for 40 years. The Brazilian Manoel Chaves (Disclosure) Some of the projects by Manoel Chaves, from MCP Yachts, one of the largest aluminum yacht builders in South America The problem is that, according to Manoel Chaves, the lawyers at Emirates Team New Zealand (ETNZ) and the directors of the team that designed the AC75 are avoiding recognizing the property rights of the Brazilian, who obtained the patent registration both in Brazil - with extension international - and New Zealand. Which should generate a dispute in that country's justice system. "The lawsuit will seek to obtain legal credits for the hydrofoil system that equips America's Cup 2021 sailboats, as well as specific recognition at the patent and industrial property rights office in New Zealand," explains Manoel Chaves, who before going to court tried , several times, plead their rights cordially, without success. “For more than two years, Emirates Team New Zealand 's management lawyers have been dodging our lawyers,” says MCP Yachts commander. “Initially, they did not respond to our letters or emails. Now, they refuse to meet with our lawyers, ”he laments. "It is possibly the typical case of an isolated bureaucrat, who knows nothing about boats and who thinks he is above the law." If there is no agreement, both the main competition (the most famous and traditional sailing challenge in the world, with 169 years of tradition) and the selective stage for the challenger (former Louis Vuitton Cup, now Prada Cup) will have this taint and a great judicial imbroglio. Manoel Chaves is absolutely sure that neither the United Arab Emirates nor the New Zealand government is aware of this conflict, according to Manoel, hidden by lawyers and ETNZ directors. The Brazilian imagines that, at some point, the team's managers and lawyers failed to assume that the office that designed the AC75 copied the idea without knowing that there were patents to be respected. Now, he says, they insist on not going back. “In New Zealand, an investigation into the embezzlement of public money is underway, which would have been carried out by some ETNZ bureaucrats. Perhaps that is why, without making any advance judgment, this matter falls like a bomb in the hands of some of those bureaucrats, says Manoel. “A famous English proverb says: 'Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery'. In other words, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, ”recalls MCP Yachts commander, Brazilian Manoel Chaves. This is not a simple exchange of words Manoel Chaves has (and has already presented) concrete evidence that the primacy of the discovery of hydrofoils to be used in the AC75 belongs to him and his team, starting with the registration of patents, granted, repeat, both in Brazil (PAT. BR 10.2015.028909.9) and in New Zealand (PAT. N. 740860) - that is, at the Emirates Team New Zealand's own home , where the 36th edition of the America's Cup is scheduled , after the dispute between the three challengers: Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli Team (Italy); the American Magic / New York Yacht Club (USA) ; and Ineos Team UK (England). Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli Team (Italy) Ineos Team UK (England) Before going to court, the Brazilian says that he did everything to resolve the matter in a positive and cordial way, due to his experience in the nautical world. But, it seems, their lawyers (from Brazil and New Zealand) have no alternative but to file a lawsuit in the country hosting the America's Cup 2021 . It is important to remember that a patent is not a document purchased or granted under pressure. Rather, it is a title deed granted after a long and detailed study, under the control of a government technical body from the countries involved, and granted freely and spontaneously. The America's Cup rule states that the title holder chooses the location of the races and the model of the sailboat for the final matchs. And the kiwis, as current champions, opted for the AC75, with pivoting hydrofoil on the side, with keel wings and electronically controlled lift wings, exactly as detailed by the patents of Manoel Chaves and his team. The invention of the naval engineer and his Brazilian team already registered more than 120 thousand views on the internet when Emirates Team New Zealand unveiled its new boat - Te Aihe , a name that means dolphin, in the Maori language -, whose main attraction was the foils , whose job - as a titleholder - made it mandatory for all challenging boats. The images in the international press caught the attention of the Brazilian, who immediately identified the DNA of the system patented by him in the hydrofoils of the AC75. In other words, according to Manoel, it was an exact copy of his device. “We went to check where the access to our website came from to watch the video of our operating system, and read the handouts that showed how everything worked, and in a specific period, most of the access was from Internet users in New Zealand and Italy . In other words, they left traces ”, says Manoel Chaves. To increase their mistrust, ETNZ's designers never revealed a prototype of this sailing boat, nor did they present any patent on the hydrofoil system. Documents prove “It will be impossible for Team Emirates to prove otherwise,” believes Manoel Chaves. Because? Simple: because this technological outfit has an owner. “I have documents that prove that I developed this technology long before the construction schedules for the AC75 were established,” says Manoel Chaves, who registered intellectual property first in Brazil (who is a signatory to the Paris Convention, which establishes that, in a period two years, patents registered in a country are valid internationally) and then (reinforcing the protection of industrial property) in New Zealand, guaranteeing exclusivity in their exploitation for 20 years, according to the criteria of the World Intellectual Property Organization (Wipo , of the acronym in English). This means that Manoel Chaves has his invention protected by patents all over the planet, leaving those responsible for America's Cup to grant him the intellectual credit for the use of the technology developed by him. To defend his rights, the Brazilian hired a lawyer in New Zealand, who alerted the Emirates Team New Zealand about patent infringement. Apparently, the head of the UAE team's legal area shrugged. Manoel Chaves' lawyers finally addressed a letter to Mr. Hon Phil Twyford, Minister of Trade, Innovation and Employment of New Zealand, reporting all the facts, presenting the evidence that the mechanism created by his team is patent and is in force. all similar to that used by the America's Cup teams . However, the New Zealand government, in the process of just consolidating internal elections, has not yet responded. Now Manoel Chaves' lawyers in Brazil (from BEERRE Patentes) and Oceania (Mr. Jim Piper, from PIPERs New Zealand), great specialists in intellectual property law in both countries, say that there is no other option but the beginning of a lawsuit against competition organizers for patent infringement. And what does Emirates Team New Zealand say? Recently, after almost two years of not responding to Manoel Chaves' lawyers, ETNZ's legal team (through Dentons Patent Attorneys, one of the largest law firms in the world) sent a message saying that, despite the “coincidences”, the system is not “exactly the same”. In the same letter, they took the opportunity to threaten the Brazilian inventor and designer with actions for moral damages, if he goes to the press to reveal these facts, “since the companies involved in the competition are of unblemished history”. Undoubtedly, powerful companies (Air Bus, Prada, Pirelli, Fly Emirates, Toyota, Yanmar, Ineos, Parker and Omega, among others) sponsor the America's Cup , earning with the images that run around the world showing the super fast and bold boats that participate in the competition. They print their names on sails and hulls. However, Manoel Chaves points out, these sponsors are probably totally ignorant of his challenge, which was kept secret by lawyers from the UAE team directors. All this confusion, says Manoel, could have been solved 32 months ago by the ETNZ team's lawyers, "if they were willing to talk to the inventor of the revolutionary hydrofoil system, giving credit to him and his team for the invention". However, they shrugged off the request of Brazilian Manoel Chaves, who holds patents as evidence, an irrefutable track record as a naval engineer and boat builder, photos of his prototype sailing with the original hydrofoils, tests carried out in test tanks, all documents , in addition to the YouTube video with over 180,000 views . “There will be a trial in the courts that could take three to five years. But no law firm, no matter how big, can take this away from us, ”says Manoel Chaves. According to Manoel Chaves, the hydrofoil system was patented in 2015, generating a first project for use on a high-performance cruise ship ( check here ) . The prototype was manufactured at the entrepreneur's shipyard (MCP Yachts), in the city of Guarujá, on the coast of São Paulo. No one had ever seen such a system. The hydrofoils developed in Brazil were patented under the name of SBS (Sailing Booster System), which differs in that it has a wing on each edge, both of which pivot (rotate) on the side. “When this system is in the water, the wind, the vertical wing operates as a keel”, explains its inventor. “In addition, perpendicular and at the low end of the keel wing, there is a second wing, called the lift wing, which generates instantaneous / variable thrust and is electronically controlled”, he says, detailing how he outperformed the other types of hydrofoils for sailboats in the market. The initial tests were carried out in January 2016. To that end, Manoel Chaves adapted an old sailboat of his own, the Labareda , model Atoll 23, built in 1978. The original keel of the Labareda was cut on December 21, 2015, allowing the placement of the SBS on the sides. On the left, the sailboat Labareda, model Atoll 23, built in 1978, with SBS on the sides. Right, AC 75, America's Cup 2021 In parallel with the prototype sea trials, tests were carried out in the proving ground of the University of Jaú, in the interior of São Paulo, with models at different speeds. “The results were exciting. All events were recorded, photographed and filmed ”, guarantees Manoel, inventor of SBS. Already patented, the system was first presented to the public during the Annapolis USA Sailboat Show, in October 2016. Manoel Chaves presenting his SBS invention at the Annapolis USA Sailboat Show Manoel Chaves' SBS soon drew attention, due to gains in efficiency, performance, safety, economy and comfort at sea, in addition to the ease of operation. “It is a system that is many times more efficient than any other”, defends its inventor. Folios are not exactly a novelty There are already many models applied to vessels. The originality of SBS lies in the way that these folios were added to monohulls, and how they started to operate on these sailboats. “Combined with each other, they guarantee lateral support, compensating for the lateral effort of the sails. At the same time, they offer an instant electronic thrust response, eliminating or reducing the need for the conventional keel, thus reducing the dynamic displacement of the hull ”, details Manoel Chaves. Not to mention the ease of putting in and taking out of the water (just press a button) and the fact that it is an instant response system, electronically intelligent. "If the boat needs more lift at windfall, immediately the hydraulic system generates this lift, controlled by an electronic set powered by batteries", he adds. The most interesting thing is that this system can be used even on cruising sailboats, and not just for competition, like America's Cup sailing machines . The advantages are enormous: from the small draft on cruising sailboats (in the extreme case, it is possible to dispense with the use of a keel, as the AC75 do) to stability (even when at anchor, with transverse waves, the boat does not swing; it is stuck) , passing through lightness and speed - on a normal sailboat, it is possible to reduce the weight of the keel by more than 60%. “It makes no sense to spend a fortune to make a carbon fiber boat and super light mast and then put lead on the keel to achieve better stability”, says the inventor of SBS, a system that does not require the addition of weight to obtain stability. On the contrary: "The dynamic displacement (which consists of the weight of the boat when sailing) is decreasing as the speed increases", describes the Brazilian naval engineer. With that, of course, the boat sails faster. "We will be happy if they present any boat or prototype with the same idea or patent dated before November 18, 2015", says Manoel Chaves, referring to the date of registration of his patents. According to the law, the entire patent registration process remains for a month of public knowledge, awaiting any challenge. "But nothing has been presented so far, in Brazil or in New Zealand," says Manoel, who is waiting for the next chapters of history, on the eve of the World Cup for sailing.
  3. Trovão

    a terrible horrible day

    my condolences
  4. Trovão

    Too far gone?

    golf clap!
  5. Trovão

    Too far gone?

    a bathtub?
  6. Trovão

    class signal flags no affiliation whatsoever...
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  8. Trovão

    The F1 2020 thread

    he claimed he forgot to... but i'm happy for him, i think he deserved a podium finish.
  9. this is going into a friend's smoker in a while... sunday's bbq on a friend's boat...
  10. Trovão

    The F1 2020 thread

    hope the weather helps keeping the race "interesting"...