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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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  1. Congratulations!!! That is really awesome and I think it will be a blast of a yacht!!! I am also a Capri 22 owner (love it) and am very excited about the 275. Are you planning on trailering regularly? ...I'm a hardcore trailer-sailor and curious to see how feasable this would be with a 275. Again... congratulations! ...that's very exciting!! -james-
  2. Hazards to navigation.. Or just another barnacle boom town! JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta"
  3. The more I see her... The more I like her... Looking forward to hearing more... JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta"
  4. ...well, we agree on that one! ...but maybe you're talking about the Pogo 2 ? I really like the 30... shrink this to a trailerable size... JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta"
  5. Well, I really hope the 275 gets good sailing reviews! I can't look at one photo and a couple of drawings and have any idea of it's sailing qualities. Wish them well with a new design in this economy! JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta" Overnighting on Bella Barchetta off Capitola, California... with my kayak-tender in tow...
  6. Bulbhunter... You seem determined to belittle my opinion... both about the Elan 210 as well as the Capri 22. Your response above makes me question your experience & understanding with what I'm talking about. ...that's all fine, buy whatever you want and enjoy it. JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta"
  7. Yep Elan 210 has one. I'm still very baffled by his comment that it was not engineered for regular trailering? You walk the mast back pin the base tip it up Capri 22 is the same, ditto for the U20. You lower the vertical lifting keel ditto for the U20, BTW no swing keel crap to maintain on a vertical lifting keel. Pin the rudders on and your done. How exactly is the Capri easier? I've helped launch Capri 22's several of them and you couldn't get so far from the truth regarding which boats are easier to rig and splash the Capri 22 was designed 35yrs ago and NO its not easier its actually a major pain in the ass to splash compared to the vertical lift keel trailered boats. So I'm really curious why he thinks the Capri 22 is so much easier to trailer and launch? Maybe he found some magical method none of us have ever seen? ...are you kidding? Watch the 210 video... Before you even step the mast, you need to install the spreaders... You then attach the upper shrouds, set the cap distance and pin them to the spreader tips... Then you also need to thread the lower shrouds through spreader root... All this necessitates tuning the shrouds at the deck fitting EVERY time you rig it... no back-stay. ...I'm sure some modifications could elliminate some of this, but why didn't they think about that at the design table? The below-deck forestay fitting is very clean, but again would require some mod's for the above mentioned rigging issues. You'll notice in the video they elect to show the keel lowering / raising without the mast / boom installed... Because they've got that Soviet-Bloc style contraption required to winch the keel?!?! Then you get to wrench down six bolts to hold the keel in place... whatever. That outboard stash under the cockpit sole is a pretty complicated looking bit of kit! etc. etc. etc... My point is that this boat has every bit of "racing" kit that a non-trailerable racing yacht has. ...and that simply makes it impractical for regular trailering. IMHO And believe it or not, some of us think that's an important design criteria! (so back to the original post...the 275 might be a suitably simple trailerable) ..."might" being the operative word. As far as the Capri 22 "time-to-splash" is concerned... yes, I have developed a very efficient work sequence! From the time I pull into the parking lot to when I am in the water ready to push off is about 50 minutes. ...solo... About 40 minutes when I have my beautiful lady friend helping! (who was a big time racer in college) Mostly because this little yacht is dirt simple!! ...and simple is good!! The only rigging adjustment I have to do every launch is the back-stay... ...it needs to be loose in order to pin the roller furler. Yes, I do wish the Capri 22 had a little chain locker... that would be sweet!! ...my milk-crate set-up is a little hokey, but I don't take it every time I sail. It depends where I'm going and what the sail plan is. Every sailboat -as with any engineering project, is a state of compromise for the end results. And while I'm certain the 210 would be an absolute blast to sail... the complexity of it's set-up kills it for me. There are lot's of good boats out there... I have one of them!! Fair winds!!! JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta" Last weekend on the San Francisco bay, making our way west from downtown to Angel Island for lunch and a hike and some time "below deck"
  8. Hmmm... nothing wrong with either of those sailboats... U20 & Com-Pac... No point in running down the reasons for why I would still prefer my Capri. I was simply pointing out that the Elan 210 was not engineered very well for regular trailering. You sail your way, I'll sail my way...enjoy!! JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta"
  9. Sailing is a wonderful sport that I truly love!! ...but I am strictly Liesure Class!! I don't race, so I can't relate to a lot of the hype that revolves around speed. I trailer my "old" Capri 22 all over and absolutely love this sailboat!!! This is typical of my sailing profile... July 3rd 2013 ...I rest my case! JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta"
  10. Elan 210... I was VERY excited about importing one of these, until... I watched the Owner's Manual video of the set-up, HOLY CRAP!!! They could NOT have made this a more complicated 21 foot sailboat!!! ...I'll be in the water sailing, before you even get the mast stepped on that thing! A modern, beautiful boat for sure, but NOT engineered to be a regular trailerable. JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta"
  11. I'm intrigued by this boat for no other reasons than these... -Optional porta-pottie (simple) -Optional outboard (simple and inexpensive) -Optional wing keel (trailer friendly) ...these options might allow this to be a very nice trailerable. Keep it light, keep it simple, keep it inexpensive (relatively) I'm looking forward to checking one of these out on the left coast. Trailering is the most important feature to my sailing profile! My Capri 22 dry-berths at my home and I trailer her everywhere. There's really nothing out there that could make me trade. ...just about the perfect boat for what I do!! JAMES HARRIS "Bella Barchetta"