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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  

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  1. 61.1 Informing the Protestee

    No and no. No collusion. Just a bad experience and a lesson learned.
  2. 61.1 Informing the Protestee

    Thinking about 'deeming' SI, It seems to me that the reasonableness of deeming a notice on a noticeboard to be sufficient notification, is predicated on a protestee being aware of the protesting party's intention to protest, (in accordance with rule 61.1) in order to alert them to check the notice board. This was my point. It was properly listed on the board, but since the protesting boat never hailed and did not immediately fly a flag, we had no reason to look. I asked for a re-opening to at least discuss validity, but the PCs position was that , since it was properly listed and I did not attend, they would not re-open. Lesson learned. Check the board, even if you have no idea that you might be involved in a protest.
  3. 61.1 Informing the Protestee

    By "the other boat" I meant us" They were 3 boatlengths back when we tacked to port a half boatlenght below the mark, crossed them and tacked back after they rounded. Item 6 says "words used" and their answer was "starboard bearaway". The only words they said to us were " get out of the way" when they were a boatlength away. We did not even nearly hit the mark, and if we had, we would have done a circle or retired whether we were protested or not.
  4. 61.1 Informing the Protestee

    "When her protest will concern an incident in the racing area that she was involved in or saw, she shall hail " Protest" and conspicuously display a red flag at the first reasonable opportunity". This protest was heard by the PC without the protestee, who did not know he was being protested. When he requested a reopening, the PC says they had covered validity. Both item 6 and the narrative confirm that "Protest" was never hailed. Light air race. Boats were near each other for a while. For the record the other boat never got closer than 6 feet from the mark and crossed with 5 feet to spare. Speed of boats approx 2 knots.
  5. Trophy Vendors - Any Recommendations?

    Agreed. Dave Noble does a great job. I've gotten trophies from him for over 15 years.
  6. shipping a 16' runabout on trailer

    Uship is the way to go. Good prices and insured drivers.
  7. Whitebread 2014

    I'm happy to let you know that the Greenport Ocean Race 2017 and Greenport Bay Race will be on Columbus Day Weekend this year. The Whitebread will be on Yom Kippur. The Greenport races will be held on Friday, October 6th and race headquarters will be Brewers Stirling Harbor Marina. The marina is offering "buck a foot" docking for Thursday and Friday nights. The awards party will be Saturday in the Brewers yard. This will be the 10th Greenport Ocean Race.
  8. BIRW 2017

    Andiamo was also taking the credit, and after the protest, they took it away from him.
  9. BIRW 2017

    And he felt he should get the credit and nobody else should. That is why he protested the fleet.
  10. BIRW 2017

    There's always one A hole in every fleet. This one protested the whole fleet because the 111s get a 3 second credit for having a furler. Although none of the boats actuallg furl the jib, he felt since he at least raises the jib on the swivel, he should get that credit and nobody else should. When it was heard, and it was clear that nobody, including A hole, had either roller battens or vertical battens , they took the 3 seconds away from all 111s including A hole. In Tuesday's racing, the only boat whose result became worse was A hole himself. The one good thing that came out of it was that it brought the fleet closer together as everyone now had a common dislike.
  11. Off Soundings Series and low pressure systems.

    You can have a working VHF on board and not be monitoring it, since the course is posted on the board. Race committee boats use flags and course boards so that boats don't have to constantly monitor VHFs to know what is going on.
  12. Off Soundings Series and low pressure systems.

    The race committee, according to what I've read here, posted one course and announced another. All of the boats sailed the course that they saw or heard but some boats sailed a much shorter course because the posted course allowed them to. As far as no fault of their own, the boats that sailed the longer course did so, not because they made an error. They did it because the RC called it the round the island race, even though rounding those 2 marks did not require a boat to actually sail around any island.
  13. Off Soundings Series and low pressure systems.

    And 9.1 says "THE COURSES 9.1. The courses will be displayed on the RC Signal Boat using a horizontal arrangement of mark symbols reading from left to right in the order of rounding". The 3 boats sailed the posted course. Probably the best solution would have been for the other boats to have filed for redress on the basis that their finishing places were made significantly worse through no fault of their own because of a race committee error. That would have to have been filed in the normal protest time limit, so that ship has sailed.
  14. Help me I can't decide which boat is right

    I think I'd go with a foiling optimist.
  15. what is it?

    Mexicans trying to cross the frozen Rio Grande.