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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. You're doin great MSG - The treatment -healing -rebuild process begins Better than new in no time ! An added bionic turbo-charged gastro-intestinal implant perhaps ?
  2. MSG My sincere best wishes . You can get through it . stay positive . Several have given you good advice , get some help , above all don't be afraid to ask for help either . The doctors may give you options on treatments so you will need to contact others who have been through it or get expert opinions . Usually there are local cancer support groups , Your doc and hospital should have info on them . You need to read up on the type of cancer you have as much as possible --as difficult and mind numbing as that is . As others noted the hardest thing is trying to think straight ,you will run through the gambit of emotions also --everyone does each in their own way . We never agreed on politics but that doesn't seem very important these days ,stay mentally strong --YOU CAN BEAT IT --millions of people have and continue to . YOU WILL TOO !! all the best Carl Roberts
  3. The deathes inquireies and investigations are not going away anytime soon . http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gunwalker-family-of-slain-federal-agent-demands-answers/ Five months after U.S. immigration agent Jaime Zapata was shot to death by a Mexican drug cartel, his family is demanding to know whether the weapons were purchased in the United States and smuggled into Mexico under the now-defunct Fast and Furious operation. The family complains that U.S. authorities in Washington and Texas have refused to answer crucial questions about the Feb. 15 ambush on a four-lane highway in northern Mexico. “What happened with Jaime needs to come out,” the family’s lawyer, Raymond L. Thomas of McAllen, Texas, said in a telephone interview Sunday. “And the likelihood that these were Fast and Furious guns is certainly plausible.” A third operation named “Operation Castaway” is also coming to the attention of congressional investigators, and a pattern of weapons recovered from the Houston area in southern and central Mexico suggests that a fourth “watch and do nothing” operation existed. Just how many “Gunwalker” operations did the ATF, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Agency, Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, the Internal Revenue Service, and the State Department collude in? http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gunwalker-family-of-slain-federal-agent-demands-answers/
  4. I don't think the gun running scandal will go away anytime soon no matter how much diversion is created and insider agency reports and testimony is made . There are too many deathes to ignore it . I keep reading things like this on the net -- http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obfuscation-dems-push-gun-control-to-hide-gunwalker-scandal/ A handful of Democratic lawmakers in Congress and a fish cop held a press conference Friday to announce a new gun control proposal, the “Stop Gun Trafficking and Strengthen Law Enforcement Act.” The proposed law has no chance of passing, and seems orchestrated as a Democratic response meant to draw attention away from the still-developing “Gunwalker” scandal: U.S. Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney (D-NY), Elijah E. Cummings (D-MD), ranking member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) will join other members and a leading law enforcement organization for an event Friday, July 15th, 11:00 a.m. at the House Triangle to introduce the “Stop Gun Trafficking and Strengthen Law Enforcement Act,” which establishes a dedicated firearms trafficking statute to empower law enforcement to keep high-powered firearms out of the hands of dangerous criminals, including Mexican drug cartels. The exact same agencies that would be charged with enforcing the proposal are currently under investigation — and may eventually face felony charges — because they broke existing laws and participated in widespread gun trafficking. To borrow from a reader, the federal government is using federal agencies to break federal laws so that same federal government can impose more federal laws on the people that did not break the law. It is Orwellian in its absurdity, and yet entirely real. For those of you arriving to the story late, the scandal of Gunwalker began when ATF whistleblowers testified about a multi-agency federal program in Arizona called “Operation Fast and Furious.” The program was carried out by a multi-agency task force involving elements of the Department of Justice; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives; the Federal Bureau of Investigation; the Drug Enforcement Agency; and the Internal Revenue Service. It would also have likely required the involvement of the Department of State and the Department of Homeland Security. As executed, the plot allowed straw purchasers to buy thousands of firearms and deliver them to Mexican drug cartels, presumably so- cont.
  5. There is evidence to warrent a special investigation . The law suit will bring inquirey and more evidence . It is interesting how some commemorate the Iran Contra investigation yet can not believe any similar black ops with weapons over borders can occur if a prez has a D by his or her name ,nor apparently does it warrent inquirey or further investigation --to them anyway . The inconsistancy and blind obedience to political party are more apparent in issues of foriegn policy and war if observed over time . It is very apparent here . With the absence of inquirey much less any consistant standards applied by one political party and its followers Obama has had a very effective weapons program and CIA OPERATIONS -- i e -DRONE BOMBING KILLED ANOTHER 45 "SUSPECT TERRORISTS" {in the news today} . Killing dozens at a time based on foriegn intel over foriegn borders --Hey -what could possibley go wrong ?
  6. All O has had to do is not F U the AGREEMENT and ongoing withdrawl that started before he took office . One thing O has done well is listen to Patraeus Gates and others , O has no military experience , no training , and little experience in foriegn policy , in fact O said he wanted Biden as VP to help in that regard . O should have checked into Biden record first --he was not only wrong on his trisection of Iraq plan --dead wrong-- but wrong on most every major foriegn policy issue in his 25 years in the govt. Maybe O just wanted someone to make HIM look good by comparison ?
  7. Joe Biden : Iraq one of Obama's 'great achievements' on CNN http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington...arah-palin.html
  8. Never EVER bet against the US soldier and our NATIONS abilities IF we ALL support them and set our minds to the task . As in all wars and as there are now mistakes will be made . Wars involve stategy tactics and counter tactics and there is web and flow . iT IS EASY TO CRITICIZE -that needs to be in constructive form . Nice to see Biden and Obama saying what a success it is now . in the WSJ this morning US has plan B also U.S. Will Slow Iraq Pullout If Violence Surges After Vote http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...MIDDLTopStories
  9. There is certainly no shortage of diversions and trivial characterizations with people so easily lead and going off on tangents . They can play the Palin derangement syndrome card any time and the rubes are rabid and all over it --they can't help themselves , --the rest of us should be very carefull -Pelosi still controlls the congress and Reid has 59 votes . What this really is about is the beginnings of a set up for another round of lame stream media blitz to push o care orchestrated by Obama media co as he the lead to to meeting on health care on Feb 25 in an {open discussion} on it . Meanwhile Pelosi Reid and co are already planning to push o care through by some obscure means and bending or rather corrupting rules of proceedure {as they corrupt everything else they contact } . The only real reason to meet to discuss o care is for show and media driven political propaganda . Expect a political media blitz on this over the next two weeks --lots of disinformation --same old villification narratives -- and lots of left politicians and media talking heads on an orchestrated political message so they can push their crap bill through while most are busy looking at the other hand . change .
  10. another bush derangement syndrome talking head melts down on air . they just can't help themselves . A LAWRENCE O’DONNELL video meltdown. http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/12/video-odonnell-me/
  11. The lefts take on the last guy in the WH was equally skitziod one minute he was an evil genious --the next he was too stupid to carry out war plans . Now the Puff post counter intel "genious brain trust} desides the same about Palin . too funny .
  12. send out the SEIU UNION GOONS TO BEAT ANY THAT DISAGREE --obama is your only option you will obey .
  13. Who is the average American just out of interest as it is banded around all the time, good old average Joe, but what defines average? It was average Joe the plumber until he was unfortunate enough to bump into Obama campaigning in his Toledo neighborhood and asked the O a question about "redistributing his wealth "--his paycheck . Joe was immediately attacked by the left , government workers illegally went into his records to dig up dirt and slander him -they did in every leftist media outlet and paper -since then no one else has volunteered for the job ---hope n change http://www.plumbingjoe.com/who-is-joe-the-plumber/
  14. Most of the left are pavlovian like and conditioned to bark whenever they hear bells going off with R tones to them .
  15. works every time even Broader is complimenting Palin today for her political windreading ability Stop the Presses: David Broder Sings Palin’s Praises http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/in...hp/rubin/235146