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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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    Whistsunday Islands, Australia
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    multihulls, offshore cruising, boat design, marine rescue
  1. Unfortunately I', still looking, how do I enable 'Ignore'?
  2. What is the link to set up the ignore function please?
  3. Interesting.. Will always give that starboard rights!
  4. Ha! DL can also be credited for the color scheme (rEd) that Artemis 'stole' from his pond toy. Geni-Us that knows no bounds
  5. dont uPseT anyone
  6. The Dogfather of fLoiling?
  7. Looks like theres a bit of floatation in those outrigger foils? I'd be worried about them bashing on the bottom in a bit of chop though.. Looking fwd to more progress pics- Cheers!
  8. outrigger assisted mono? Whatever it is, it certainly looks interesting and nicely built too. Thanks for the new thread, I wasnt really following the other one so glad I checked on it and saw this machine. Please keep posting pics, info and videos when available..
  9. I love the look/idea of this thing Groucho.. can you start another thread about it? It much prefer to read about it right now than the Pulse. (Just jealous, cant afford one yet)
  10. A pretty comprehensive list Mark, I concurr.. Orange foils esp a good call. The only extra I would add to this would be the masthead airbag system mentioned here http://www.f-boat.com/pages/background/capsizearticle.html A friend of mine here with a Little Barrier Express cat has made up his own, with a autoinflating lifejacket incorporated- not as yet tested in the field...
  11. From VMR Whitsundays Newsletter https://vmrsamsonpost.wordpress.com/activations/august-16/ "Activation Report 17/08/16 Skipper: Paul C Crew: Tom & Roger Task: Search & Salvage, near Double Cone Islands Called out at 1330. A trimaran contesting day 5 of Airlie Beach Race Week had capsized 1 mile from North Molle in an ebbing full moon tide and 25 knot winds. The crew had been taken ashore by another boat and we were tasked to locate and secure the vessel. We left at 1415 with a spare anchor on board and collected a bouy/marker from MSQ and redezvoused with the crew at Abell Point before heading out. At 1450 we started a pattern search with wind and tide in mind – it would be somewhere between North Molle Island and Double Cone Island, but white caps made it difficult to spot the trimaran’s white hull. Our search was unsuccessful – as had our attempts to get a helicopter, due to their busy schedules, combined with a storm front moving through. At 1730 the skipper/owner of the stricken vessel had engaged a helicopter and within 15 minutes it found the vessel one mile from Double Cone – just outside our search pattern. We were there in a few minutes and one of the vessel’s crew attached lines to the hull. With all 600 horses in action we made several attempts to right it with another storm brewing, but were unsuccessful and towed the vessel to a shallower area, bearing in mind the vessel’s still attached 15 metre mast and rigging. Their crewman swam back to the vessel to retrieve our main tow line and attached the MSQ marker bouy. At the owners request we used our second tow line to drop our spare anchor and headed back to Abell Point. Hay Point VTS was notified and a SECURITAY message issued. We were back in pen at 2000 – almost 6 hours in stormy conditions. Time on job: 5¾ hours. PS: For further information about the aftermath of this activation, please see our Facebook entries."
  12. It doesnt LOOK too bad.. but weird. Siamese twin catfish?
  13. Wrong boat mate. Has no cabin and some funky foil thingies on the bows. Thats the puppy, Cheers. Zeavard is 30ft i think, aborted its circumnavigation in WA and was sold off..I dont think it had the bow canards like the 22ft version. The 22ft'er has some interesting concepts but smelt a bit fishy to me when i read the report on how "well" it went in the bay 2 bay. Cock crowed too early it seems..? If anyone on the ground can get some 'goss' from the owner/builder Len Surtees while at Hammo Id be very interesting to see what is up with it. Also if anyone has sailed against it that could make some observations would be interested in hearing them also.
  14. So is the Surtees cat mortally wounded, or just off cruising instead? Last race 1, DNF race 2, DNC race 3... not a great debut. Just one pic of it sailing will satisfy my curiousity, more details would be appreciated.. anyone?
  15. From VMRs Facebook today.. "Just a quick response to some of armchair experts who seem to be saying that VMR Whitsundays coulda, shoulda, musta done more for "Closer to God" after it capsized. Please keep in mind that VMR's primary role is to save lives at sea, not to get involved with search and salvage of abandoned vessels. The crew had been taken off safely, so there was no real need for VMR to get involved. However, at our discretion, we may do so as a service to the boating community, which is what happened last Wednesday. Some folks have asked why VMR did not right the tri. A trimaran is very stable when upright, until a large force causes it to capsize. It then becomes even more stable upside down, especially with rigging and sails still attached. The crew of VMR1 made a number of attempts to right the tri, but as this one is more than 10 metres long, and therefore bigger and heavier than VMR1, the chances of success was small, even in calm conditions. A proper tug boat MAY have succeeded, but VMR1 is not a tug boat. The other comments relate to the anchoring of the vessel and how it broke the mooring. The owner was onboard VMR1, and it was his decision to anchor the vessel. He was fully aware how long it would have taken to tow the vessel to a safer anchorage, especially with 15 metres of mast and sails hanging down below it. This also seriously limited where it could have been towed to. The owner was not able to get back to the vessel for 36 hours, by which time there had been a number of full moon tides, and several storm fronts had moved through, hence it was no real surprise that the vessel had broken free. The ground tackle would have had to have been much more substantial than could have been carried by VMR1; maybe an anchor suitable for a small freighter, a few tonnes of chain, and a 150 mm hawser!! The reality is that VMR Whitsundays did the best they could do in the circumstances, and at least we gave it a go. To top it all off, we have lost our spare anchor, chain and one of our towlines. " https://www.facebook.com/VMRwhitsunday/photos/a.241339302690035.1073741827.232876100203022/659658577524770/?type=3&theater