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  1. Oracle Team USA

    Whoa! You won the internet! Congrats!
  2. I love the look of gaff rigs. I love to sail them. But my experience is that they have a much lower power to drag ratio.
  3. Team NYYC

    Uh... In general, bigger is more expensive. And less OD is more expensive. And bigger OD is more expensive. And generally it's harder to do OD if you go bigger, because more of the stuff that isn't OD can be very different in engineering. Sure, not "mutually exclusive", like playing professional American Football and professional baseball, as Bo Jackson did for 4 seasons, are not "mutually exclusive", but they are generally at odds with each other.
  4. F-22 Update

    Actually, I was thinking that it would reduce the violence of luffing, so the sails would last longer.
  5. Team NYYC

    Seems telling that you say too expensive, too small, too one design all in the same paragraph.
  6. Team NYYC

    I have almost exactly this reaction. I imagine that many have thought of something like this. I have. But to make it work, that is very awesome, and if it works in the AC, that is wicked awesome! The no boom thing I think was Ian Farrier, among others. I wonder if that tri is a Fariier 22?
  7. Team NZ

    Seems like one or more of the teams should hire Oracle Racing talent and perhaps purchase Oracle Racing tech IP. There's also a lot of talent from the other teams and from other foiling classes. It's going to be a real test as to which team figures out this frankenboat, though.
  8. My newest project

    I used to have a nice old pair of Bauers. Somehow lost them. I think in the chaos of divorce. Now I have a pair of speed skates from Bont. But I don't skate often. I do think about it often, though.
  9. Oracle Team USA

    Seems like it is all too complicated and too many ambiguous words to ever agree on anything. I still think TNZ cheated when they discovered they could get the foils measured while not in measurement trim. But that kicked off the foiling revolution, which has been very exciting, so good on them for finding that loophole!
  10. Can you elaborate on why you think transition happens at 8kts? I am thinking that it happens at more like 13, on the way up and down. 8 kts is what happens after you come off the foils, which happens when you are foiling and go below 13 kts. If you are displacement and go above 13, you go up on foiles, and if you are foiling and go below 13, you come down back to displacement. This chart has data on it, but it is presented in a way that is easy to misunderstand. And labeling it "VMG" does not help. It seems to show boat speed through the water vs true wind speed with respect to the water, but in "VMG Mode", which is the most efficient upwind or downwind mode. Seems like it's very hard to show these things clearly, but there are some standard ways, and this isn't one that I am familiar with. Perhaps a polar diagram would be nicer.
  11. VOR Leg 5 WTF

    One of the things I try to live by is to not have cures that are worse than the disease. just have the 2 transits be called transits. Have an in-port race in one place or the other or both. Don't call it a leg. Or call both transits a leg. Calling it a leg that doesn't exist is just stupid. It's like they were talking about it, and someone proposed something that no one understood enough to object to, so that did that.
  12. VOR Leg 5 WTF

    The team at VOR has a huge job, and it's a great race. Seems like they deliberately confused everything and everybody with the WTF "Leg 5" BS. Why??? It says leg 5 started feb 1, which was today. That is meaningless. And the graphic with the leg 5 label at the city is just stupid and confusing.
  13. The main issue I have with the overall design is that the lifting force on that top part of the T has to be pretty perpendicular, or... Not sure what. But it would seem to me that as they sail, the variation in the wind and on maneuvers, this will not be trivial. I keep thinking about what happened when BAR slid sideways into Team Japan (If I have the teams correct). I am very much looking forward to seeing how it all works out.
  14. Team NZ

    Volvo, Olympics and AC are 3 different beasts. That's why no one has won all three yet.
  15. That was a non-foiling kite.