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    Containers at sea

    If each container was traded like a MOB , maybe there's a big market in tagging containers.
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    Triple Crown??? Peter Burling

    Expectations of welcome . . . my how times have changed. Your original post is, frankly, rather funny (or insulting) by assuming that something new to you is news to others. The topic has been discussed earlier, as a search would have shown."Triple Crown"&type=forums_topic&nodes=20&sortby=relevancy btw, look up "shakel" or "schakel" to know more why Jack and DtM are dismissive of your thread.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    I agree with your psyche re the elapsed point--after all, that was the primary way the Whitbread was decided. (sorry if my comment seemed to imply a criticism). I love this race: because there are so many other 'races' going on, like the struggle to come up with a ranking for a RTW race (another reason I'm hooked on reading the Noticeboard).Trying to come up with the best system that 'weights' the many aspects of the efforts of the teams is a monumental and fascinating struggle. Take 'sprint' leg vs intercontinental ocean leg . Still waiting for someone to trial a system that differentiates the two. That's the 'next level' I watch for an RC to test. Longitude leg (storm chasing/ timezones) vs Latitude leg (doldrum crossing/ climatezoner)? Different skills to sail those, but weighted the same. An Ocean leg win seems more important than a sea leg win in my psyche, for example. Sometimes the sprints, like legs 1, 10, and 11 seem like exhibition matches (like leg 0's or in-ports), and in many ways, the ocean race was over in Cardiff. Somewhere in the future, I'd expect an OA to come up with a score system that reflected that. The "Chichester' class being tested in the upcoming Global race is interesting (like the 'B' side matches seen i many tournaments), and I' like to see that tested in the Vendee, for all those who could have continued their circumnavigation and campaigns had they been allowed one chance at outside assistance. Allowing outside assistance (with penalty) works in the Barcelona and VOR, I'm rambling. sorry.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    The elapsed point is new this race, and for, I suspect, the reasons above. The Spanish on Telefonica in 2012 had the best elapsed time, but that counted for nothing, and there were arguments then that elapsed should count for something. FWIW, in-port points counted in 2012 totals, but that ended up weighting the in-ports too much, so last edition in-ports were eliminated from the leg scores, and were only used as a tie-breaker for overall rankings. The history of deciding how race should be decided has even more strange attempts to come up with something that reflects the ideal race. The addition of the elapsed point and double leg points, and bonus for the Horn and wins is new, and other than RET and DNS/DNF, has worked this edition. No doubt further refinements will be tried, especially to balance the worth of big ocean legs with the shorter sea sprints. Never winning a leg and hoisting the trophy? Can't see that as a record any team would want to achieve. A point for 24 hour record would be more desired.
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    VOR Leg 10 Cardiff to Gothenburg

    I still am sceptical the 'new sail' made the difference. MAPF had a newer main than TBRU, so it should have been a bigger factor than a smaller jib. Too, MAPF was almost able to match TBRU once they were close enough, and then both extended on the others, even when the COGs, TWAs and TWS looked similar across the fleet. As those numbers showed advantage to one or the other, TBRU was able to get the most out of the puffs, and presumably, waves. Looked like MAPF learned from TBRU, but were less practised/ skilled in that mode. After being glued to the tracker numbers for hours and watching the hell clip, looked like driving was key. Darn! I'd hoped the battle in the Baltic would give a signal that MAPF 'coulda' matched TBRU to the Horn had their track been healthy. Sadly, I think TBRU would have got that Horn point anyway, through better driving. Still think MAPF will have learned, and hope to see TBRU chasing them into the Hague
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    Thanks, especially for this shot. Sir Robin looks so at ease twixt tiller and company.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Thanks for the find and link. I've pasted the machine translation to English below:
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    VOR Leg 10 Cardiff to Gothenburg

    Oh no! Appreciated, but unexpected. There must be better ways to enjoy your time in Gothenburg . . . .
  9. Helen Fretter at Sail World agrees (cred Andy Green's tweet for the find) The whole article is a good read, and will be a useful intro to anyone wondering what all the fuss is about. Her conclusion:
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Agree. Torben is the only one (if nominated) likely to get approval, but my point was also who would it be cool to see onboard.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Who would be cool to see as the special guest that SHALL be on this Leg? Teams have already submitted their nominations, according to the NOR Speculation start: Sponsor or sailor possibilities: MAPF: Felipe Juan Pablo Alfonso de Todos los Santos de Borbón y de Grecia, King of Spain (or one of his two sisters?) or Knut Frostad. TBRU: Dutch inventor and entrepreneur Boyan Slat or Bouwe's daughter. DFRT: Shanghai Sailor or Mark Turner AKZO: Jack Sparrow or Torben Grael VS11: Roy Disney / Google money Wendy Schmidt, or Ken Read SHKS: boss Seng Huang Lee or Dawn Riley (would really like to see Brian Hancock get locked onboard for a few days). TTOP: Tracy Edwards, MBE or Laurene Powell Jobs (Apple counterpart to Wendy Schmidt). Sir Ben or Mr INEOS would be a coup.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    ^^ source Link (as SC showed in many previous VOR Leg threads)
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    VOR Leg 10 Cardiff to Gothenburg

    Was just looking those up - - - from the SI. and (Access to the Crew and Guest Lists page needs permission from Jack Lloyd, so semi-private.). NOR details are here (too many to post), but the most interesting is that there SHALL be a special guest on each boat for the entire last Leg.
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    VOR Leg 10 Cardiff to Gothenburg

    That info seems to show up at the last moment, or just after the Race in team tweets / home pages. Probably for security reasons, but have't come across a nice clear reason yet.
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    VOR Leg 10 Cardiff to Gothenburg

    Worth reposting in the Leg 11 thread, methinks.