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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Biggest issue is draft. What do the 40's draw? Outer/southern side of main docks get the sleds and big boats. Inside slips/rafting is very touchy due to water depth. . I Remember trying to get into our assigned rafting spot a couple years ago. We drew about 7 1/2' The CYC staff swore we could get in, but we ran aground again and again before we politely asked permission to join our friends at the coal docks Should be easier now with the water up 2 feet, but I don't think they've changed the docking zone assignments.
  2. July 2017 J/111 Great Lakes Racing

    Doesn't look like the Holland MI weekend is getting off the ground. So far 3 local boats signed up to date.... https://yachtscoring.com/current_event_entries.cfm?eID=4313
  3. West Michigan Thread

    2017 Chicago Mac NOR and Safety Regs have been posted. I was wrong. I had expected Chicago to require Safety At Sea attendance (probably with a two year warning or transition). Similar to Bayview. But Safety at Sea is still just a Strong Recommendation for 2017
  4. West Michigan Thread

    Registrations already starting to roll in . Day 2 has limited capacity so if you want the hands on and the international SAS offshore cert that goes with (as opposed to the standard cert for teh 1 day) it, I would sign up ASAP! FYI - Bayview YC is starting to require SAS attendance in this year's Port Huron Mac. Registration is open and the Safety Equipment Regs are posted: http://www.bycmack.com/pdf/2017_SER_Monohull.pdf For 2017 Bayview is requiring at least 30% of the crew (but not less than 2 including the skipper) to have either: attended Safety at Sea in the last 5 years; or attended four (4) DRYA (Detroit River Yachting Association; www.DRYA.org) or BYC Winter Seminar Series; or read a minimum of eight (8) Safety articles posted under the ‘Safety’ tab of the Race website. I think the second two options are a creative way to help phase in the requirement. It will be very interesting to see whether the Chicago YC also also moves to require Safety at Sea when the Chicago Mac safety regs are released in January!
  5. Chicago Area III

    Agreed. NOOD has been withering away across the country for the last five years. Quite a lfew locations have fallen by the wayside. This may be the most gentlemanly way out. Pre-empt the NOOD with the AC in '16, and then maybe think about something fresh in '17
  6. West Michigan Thread

    The Booze Crusee train to the Mac now leaves at 6 am! Grand Rapids-to-Chicago Amtrak train to leave earlier, return laterThe daily Amtrak train that runs between Grand Rapids and Chicago, called the Pere Marquette, will be leaving earlier to allow more time in the Windy City. Currently, the Pere Marquette is scheduled to leave the Vernon J. Ehlers Station in Grand Rapids daily at 7:40 a.m., arriving in Chicago at 10:47 a.m. local time. Beginning May 4, the train will depart daily at 6:00 a.m., arriving at 9:11 a.m. local time. http://fox17online.com/2015/04/21/grand-rapids-to-chicago-amtrak-train-to-leave-earlier-return-later/
  7. West Michigan Thread

    Saw on the Area III Thread that race documents were posted on Yacht Scoring. http://www.yachtscoring.com/emenu.cfm?eID=1231 Copied the following from the NOR: "3.2 Racing will be headquartered at the Chicago Yacht Club – Monroe Station : a.) Racing East of the Monroe station of the Chicago Yacht Club will be offered for the following classes: Beneteau 36.7, Beneteau 40.7, Farr 40, GL36/FT10, GL70, J/105, J/109, J/111, J/30, Level 35, Melges Classes, ORR, PHRF, S2 7.9, S2 9.1 and Tartan Ten. b.) Racing East of the Belmont Station of the Chicago Yacht Club will be offered for the following classes: Etchells, J/70, Luders 16, Melges 20, Rhodes 19, Shields, Soling, Viper 640. c.) The regatta is open to any boat of 19 feet LOA or greater that holds either a current Offshore Racing Rule (ORR) handicap certificate, a valid Lake Michigan PHRF (LMPHRF) rating certificate, or is a member of a one-design racing fleet recognized by the organizing authority."
  8. Chicago Area III

    Ok, but no pictures or some hypochondriac will insist we try to drain Lake Michigan, too http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/17/portland-to-flush-38-million-gallons-water-after-teen-urinates-in-reservoir/ Portland to flush 38 million gallons of water after teen urinates in reservoir
  9. West Michigan Thread

    Have they gotten the barn doors off NatalieJ yet? I'm hoping that one isn't as bad as it looks.
  10. Chicago Area III

    Good to see somebody getting out on the water after a bloody long winter. But only a landlubber Trib reporter would refer to icebreaking as "Plowing" the Chicago River Wendella boats back Friday, with help from water plowhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-wendella-boats-back-friday-with-help-from-water-plow-20140402,0,6029404.story
  11. West Michigan Thread

    And how the heck do you pull off that fiasco and still take first in section?
  12. West Michigan Thread

    Seeing Fasizi on the front page I couldn't help but wonder: Is she still on the hard at Eldeans ?
  13. Chicago Area III

    And Kudo's to the RC for the redress given to FA. Yes, Free Agent was a ways behind us coming into the mark when that happened. Sounds like they did everything possible to take care of first things first- crew in the cold water. With their redress they corrected over everbody to 1st in that race. Including us. GREAT! I applaud the redress given. People need to be rewarded for doing the right thing and responding to an emergency, rather than worry about getting "skinned" for it. That was absolutely the right example to make to the sailing fleet. If in doubt, be generous under those circumstances.
  14. West Michigan Thread

    Glad you guys got a race in, but I'm confused. I thought the whole point of Tuesday nights was racing the bigger boats outside. No more fluky reach-reach-collision-reach-reach-run agound in the shallows on Lake Mac.
  15. West Michigan Thread

    Kudos to the Dog, You guys sailed the heck out of the boat all weekend, A tremendous endorsement of MYC's racing. Great boats, great competition. And yes, especially great people. PS - You Sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Incredibly kind and gracious.