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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Oracle Team USA

    Of course the loaded foil is moving...thats how they maintained control. What's the issue? You don't think a person can execute more than one button press per second? Have you seen kids play video games these days? Its been explained time and time again that the adjustment was in half degree increments per button press, which is why the foil moves in a jerky fashion. The part of the video that shows Jimmy not touching the wheel buttons was coming out of a tack when the boat was in displacement mode, he didn't need to change rake with hulls in the water. The second part shows his outside/right hand on the wheel buttons when sailing in a straight line.
  2. Oracle Team USA

    Hey smart guy, The movement of the windward foil wasn't a mistake as you suggested. If you'd paid attention, you'd clearly see the crew is split and setting up for a gybe. Before dropping the windward foil, the crew needed to set the rake position so that the foil will go down rather than produce too much lift once touching the water. This was done by the grinders with floor buttons, as previous photos have shown.
  3. trickle down

    Doug, That is such a ridiculous comparison that I probably shouldn't even being responding... The AC boats could have made more stable foils, but they didn't because it wasn't fast. Go back and watch footage of the TNZ vs. LR races. LR was extremely stable, but that came at a price. The dynamic behavior of big boats vs. small is completely different and requires different solutions. In the case of the GC32, it makes complete sense to go the direction they have...to harp on about it being revolutionary is a stretch...
  4. News from SF Embarcadero...

    LivinIt, The races are going to be so close to shore that it could be argued that the best vantage points will be from land, for free. Fort Mason, with elevated views, or Aquatic Park with a jetty that extends within meters of the racing boundary are on my list of best places to watch. For getting really close to the boats, Pier 30/32 should offer good views of the boats getting hauled in/out as well as "pit crew" operations. Pier 29 will have an array of interactive stuff, big screens, and merchandise. Either find some friends to get out on the water, but don't bother chartering a boat. Its completely unnecessary at this venue.