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  1. Teams?

    Under section 10 of the protocol residence is everything ,, The sailors are required to be nationals OR be residents of the teams country for 380 days .. Designers are exempt from this requirement but they comply for AC35 and would have no trouble complying for AC36 anyway.
  2. Teams?

    It seems to me that ETNZ complies with the design component of the construction by reason that the design was carried out in New Zealand by people who were resident in New Zealand at the time. The original origin of the designers is not relevant.
  3. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    There is nothing to stop them moving out of harms way if necessary. My experience is that when you are hove to the boats motion is a lot more comfortable than a boat doing 20 knots. If you need to kill someone to continue your sport maybe it would be better to cancel the racing.
  4. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Perhaps they could improve safety by having a rule that requires all contestants to stop at the 50 nm boundary if they can't complete the race in daylight. When daylight comes the various boats that have been stopped can proceed at 30 minute intervals so that everyone arrives in the right order and in daylight .. they could even catch up on their sleep .. win win for everyone. Naturally elapsed times would be adjusted after finishing.
  5. death off hong kong

    Hong Kong is a province of China and has it's own legal system which it inherited from the British .. Mainland China has a completely different legal system. Matters would be much simpler if the accident had happened in HK waters.
  6. death off hong kong

    The fishing boat was from China and at 30 nm from HK was in Chinese waters.
  7. AC36 Auckland NZ

    I think there is some confusion about who represents what. The individual sailors and designers etc. represent their team .. ETNZ or Land Rover Bar or Prada whatever. The teams represent their clubs RNZYS etc. The clubs represent their country New Zealand USA etc. sometimes there will be more than one team representing the same country like the USA and Italy etc.
  8. Teams?

    I think the Artemis sailors are good but not as good as you suggest .. When the Artemis sailors have competed in equal boats such as the 49ers Moths and 18 foot cats ETNZ sailors have mainly beaten them.
  9. Foiling Monohull - what would it look like?

    I am not so sure about the safety angle .. certainly if the windward boat does not keep clear it could get messy but having a bit of ballast under the hull will limit the chances of pitchpole and I can't see how you could capsize to windward .. the leeward foil will provide a decent restoration moment if it lifts out of the water.
  10. Foiling Monohull - what would it look like?

    There was a lot more potential in both the AC72s and the AC50s .. How much faster would ETNZ's AC50 be if they had more time to make stronger foils or even learn how to sail their boat.
  11. What Is It? Foiling Ghost...

    Is that the same Bernard Smith Engineering that built the steelwork for the Sydney Opera house? .. I had some dealings with them in the late 60's and early '70s .. by all accounts the Opera house nearly broke the company.
  12. Foiling Monohull - what would it look like?

    Why do you think it will be a "fat monohull" ? The monohull only weighs 7 tons .. fractionally more than the AC72. The hull will be no larger than it needs to be to accommodate the crew. It wont need to be beamy for righting moment.
  13. Foiling Monohull - what would it look like?

    One of the advantages the AC75 foiling mono has over the foiling cats is the superior aero. No massive beams large nets and decks together with one hull instead of two.
  14. Foiling Monohull - what would it look like?

    Yes I agree that the AC50's were much faster round a course in almost all wind conditions. Having said that I can't help but wonder how the AC72''s would have performed if they had been used in AC35 instead of the AC50's .. the extra time for development would have made a huge difference.
  15. Foiling Monohull - what would it look like?

    Being faster doesn't mean "Sail Rocket territory" .. half a knot faster is still faster.