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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I got real dubious when they claimed the "kinetic" energy from their unit can somehow be stored unlike the "medium to high power electricity" from a traditional turbine. It's so nonsensical you can't even argue. Notice that the newer version in the Reuters video has all kinds of rotational stuff going on and is basically a normal turbine with a funny tacking single blade.
  2. dont double back around trees. when you pull the line it trashes the bark and can kill the tree after a while. We never doubled lines back since we were either on trees or rocks where chafe was an issue. We made a bunch of webbing straps up to loop around things that then got clipped to a spliced eye on the line. Nice fast set-up that saved wear in the lines. Had to build rock climbing style equalized anchors a few times when there was nothing solid to use b
  3. Floating webbing can be a good option Also.
  4. Even diesel can blow up in the right circumstances. Don't use the shop vac.
  5. I bet those four holes behind it are supposed to hold a missing rudder bearing.
  6. I just did a survey for someone who was financing an early 80's Tayana, so loans are still possible on the older boats. More surprisingly, I just valued an early 60's wooden S&S for re-financing, seems the money is flowing a bit more freely again these days.
  7. It won't be easy but could be done. We sold our boat for $2500 and all it needed was self steering and ground tackle to be ready to cruise again. The new owner did a couple days work and then hopped on board with some friends and sailed it down the east coast to the Carolina. The boat was in great shape, having just done 6500 offshore miles in the last few months. Course it needed an owner who was comfortable being without an engine. The hardest part will be the lack of time to search for a good deal, but I am pretty sure if someone handed me $15,000 I could be in Hawaii within a couple months.
  8. This will make the system quite a bit weaker. Nylon doesn't like rubbing on nylon when under load. Perhaps, but the shackle/clip that otherwise attaches to the jackline is a lot skinnier than a doubled tether would be. I honestly doubt that the strain or any short-term chafing with the doubled tether would be significantly worse. However, I can't prove this. It's not the size of the attachment so much as the heat created due to friction. There is a reason you never see nylon on nylon in any climbing or safety situation. It might be fine, but the potential loss of strength is substantial. If you fall and slide along the jack line it could easily cut through in a short distance.
  9. This will make the system quite a bit weaker. Nylon doesn't like rubbing on nylon when under load.
  10. Even if the other guy is drunk you might still be found partially at fault for not having an anchor light. Ens v. Gabany , No.75911/91Q Apportionment of liability was the issue in this small vessel collision case. The Plaintiff's vessel was at anchor and was hit by the Defendant's vessel. The Court apportioned ... liability 70% to the Defendant and 30% to the Plaintiff. The faults on the part of the Defendant were traveling at night at an excessive rate of speed when having consumed sufficient alcohol to have affected his judgment and vision. The faults on the part of the Plaintiff were not having an anchor light and anchoring his vessel in an area where through traffic was predictable and probable. ยป hide
  11. I put up an anchor ball during the day, low effort to eliminate a lot of risk. Pretty sure colregs only requires the cone when motoring for larger boats. Getting hit while anchored without a light or ball will make a very simple assignment of blame into a very complicated one. Without a light or ball the person who hits you could make a strong case that you are at fault.
  12. That must be why they are so popular on 60+ foot boats in the southern ocean.
  13. Can't think of much reason not to put a light out now that LEDs are available, and if something happens I don't want to explain to the insurance lawyers why I wasn't using one.
  14. Welding the last two inches of the cut closed ,drastically improves it's torsional stiffness.Sch 40 aluminum pipe is much thicker than most commercially made extrusions. Yes, schedule 40 tube is much thicker than commercial furler extrusion. Since it is the same material, that schedule 40 tube is also multiple times the weight of the furler extrusion, to achieve the same torsional stiffness.The 34 lbs for a 20 ft length of 1 1/4 inch sch 40 aluminiumn pipe ,was in the same weight ballpark as the 65lbs someone mentioned here for a commercially made furler. Don't automatically jump to confusions, by assuming all that is expensive is automatically better. Don't buy marine equivalents of use car salemen's lines A profurl extrusion is about 9 lbs for a 20' length. Pretty substantial weight saving. It is also smaller in diameter then a 1 1/4" nb pipe, so less windage. It also has a double luff groove, and other nice to have things. It is easy to think what you make is fantastic when you have no how good the competition is.
  15. Pretty sure it was shipping weight in a complete unit. Likely includes the box, packaging and a bit of fudge factor. At 34lbs for 20 feet the extrusion would weigh as much as the entire standing rigging on my old 28ft cruising boat.