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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. The 24 would be a natural choice due its light weigh and lots of power but she lacks enough structure to make it stiff enough for the foil induced loads. However, Sam is very keen to make 27 fly. We even discussed foils arrangement and other bits/pieces. The only missing part of the puzzle is an owner who is willing to finance it
  2. Hard to judge Esse but they have rather good reputation in Europe. For your next boat you need to decide how do you want to use it. Crewed/shorthanded/singlehanded? Is habitable interior a bonus or you want only to race with them? What support you can get from the yard and /or local rep? Are there more of its kind around you? I know it is kind of a blasphemy to say that you can make logical decision because buying a boat is always illogical move, but there are plenty of modern boats on the market. Have fun.
  3. Not really. With claimed 1.400kg it weights little more than Seascape 27, 500kg more than Seascape 24 while having 10m2 more sails than Seascape 18...
  4. @ Boot Dusseldorf: Seascape 24 wins European Yacht of the Year Award. Parents are very proud.
  5. Coddiwomple Krisy with a K...go look at next weeks weather...Jeremie has far better routing opportunities in front of him than Armel and Alex who will be working their fuckin rings out negotiating a maze to get a decent runway to flare burning territory. You clearly hate anything that smells or looks like chickin :-) Ha! Actually I met Jeremy while living in France and like the guy a lot. He deserve better position but initial breakages handicapped him a lot. Otherwise, he would be fighting with Armel and Alex. Anyway... looking at the models, I do not see what you predict. In a week time Armel could be at Acores while Cock Master is still around midd way between CapVerdes and Canaries. But as the situation is very unstable many things can happen. Armchair Admirals love this because they can always claim they knew what is going to happen
  6. Cock does not have a passing lane unless one (or both) frontrunners experience serious tech problems...
  7. In short, performance seems now to be primarily limited by rigs. Designers want the easy out since they don't know how to do foils. OTOH the new rigs and keels seem to work just fine. Performance is also up there for the most part. Actually, we are seeing the first generation of foil assisted boats (carefully using the phrase to avoid DougLord's attention:) where the teams asked to VPLP to design the boat with "classic" hull as-if-foils-did-not-exist in case foils do not work. You can simply swap foils for daggerboards but you're stuck with the hull. Now that we see foils do work and that first 4 boats (5 if Gitana would still be in the game) are foil(asist)ers, we can be sure they will radically exploit benefits in the coming hull generations. It is worth mentioning that Hugo Boss is not the same abut is narrower with wider foils. This might indicate that Alex got convinced on the performance of the first foilers and was willing to trade off a bit of hull stability for extra speed on foils. When worked, he arguably the fastest in the fleet. Now imagine to take all the feedback from the race and evolve this concept further...
  8. Past winners were also guys who were meticulously prepared and everything seemed to run well, almost like natural flow. One could also say effortless. But reality was far different. They also had their share of problems (I remember Mich Desj saying that @ VendeeGlobe you must be prepared to solve one potential race ending problem per day). And they have technical knowledge + mental stability to solve problems quickly. However they will not disclose anything, really anything about their problems in order not to give away any advantage. This is as Laurent said, proper Figaro school. BUT it is always very interesting to discover how the winning boat looks after crossing the finish line. It will definitely show some damage being expertly fixed.
  9. what happened to the angry mail of Pieter Heerema bitching about his autopilots? Suddenly all his videos have gone missing from the web...
  10. Heerema is another guy who thinks money can buy him anything. He is apparently taking this attitude all the way as this incident with his ground crew indicates. There's a lot of not so nice comments about him coming from the local Dutch sources. So, no surprise about the lack of sympathy for him...
  11. This picture was taken on the slip in front of Free Spirit Sailing Center in Jezera. Also worth noting is that the picture was taken in beginning of April.
  12. I am never serious but the warm water temp is exactly why no matter what goo you put on the boat you will need to clean periodically. Not all is bad however as warm (well, depending who you ask) water again helps on this topic. Some extra points to consider. 18 was designed as a daysailer. Despite vinylester skin coat, you still need to apply proper osmosis protection with epoxy primers if you want to keep the boat in the water. That is the main point. The rest is more trivial. Soft AF will damage quickly when you will pull the boat on the trailer. Hard matrix AF will work better but the basic concept fo hard AF is that the boat must move in order to get rid of the slimy goo that forms. If the boat does not move, you must provide motion (normally with a sponge)... As the boat can be capsized in the shallow water, wiping off the bottom is easy. No actual need for diver. Hence the picture.
  13. Depends on the micro location of the place where you leave the boat but no antifouling will stay squeaky clean for half a year without cleaning. Scrubbing the bottom is no big deal on Seascape.
  14. it is not so much about the boats but about the rather expectional weather that was following the boats. SMA is old Macif and even that one is 2.5 days faster. Still not sure? Check the progress of Sodebo, it is back in Atlantic with a healthy lead over amazing Joyon's track. The weather window all the way, from the start to Pacific has been amazing for front runners... That talk about winners of the race not winning heart&mind is an old story of Mich Desj versus Ellen McArthur, Vincent Riou winning against Jeal Le Cam, Mich Desj against Armel Le Cleach... exception that proves my point is F.Gabart, who won the race and had about 3 times the volume of media content than the rest of the competition...