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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. He dominated at the 2016 City Island Cup !
  2. Cabbage2 Joining a yacht club can be frustrating, I found it took just the right blend of ubiquitousness at every social event with just the right degree of uncongeniality: everyone remembers you were there but no one cares that you left. Sorry for your unmemorable experience at HYC, I'm glad you have found a more comfortable group at CIYC. BSP
  3. Fiasco for Fun: Try This New Racing Format (as seen in the 2017 YRALIS Racing Program) is an experimental format for the Huguenot Mayors' Cup modeled after the SSS Three Bridge Fiasco. With the 2017-2020 RRS updates to Rule 18.3 (Tacking in the Zone) regarding starboard roundings, and the potential for confusion even in the best circumstances, this could be amusing. Perhaps the Post-Race party will redeem the event.
  4. It's understandable that STC decided to cut it's losses on KWRW, and It's great that STC plans to perhaps, maybe, sort of re-boot KWRW in 2019 ... what do they think they can figure out in 18 months they can't in 6? Moving forward, is there a good regatta venue in January in Florida that can serve as a replacement? If it's successful in 2018 it will make it all the harder for STC to revive anything in KW in 2019.
  5. Apparently there's a J-Fest Regatta in Toronto the week before the J88 North Americans in Youngstown. With Quantum LYRA in Rochester, that's potentially three one-design regattas in three consecutive weekends on Western Lake Ontario. J/Fest Great Lakes Ashbridges Bay Yacht Club, Toronto, Ontario Canada Contact: Roger Van Vlack July 21-23, 2017
  6. Six boats entered, one finished. We had two juniors onboard, we gave them a sleigh ride to remember.
  7. The Edlu is a great race! We have 4 5 boats signed up now! Also there are also 7 J88's signed up for AYC! OA confirmed one-design class for J88's today.
  8. Hmm, maybe I need to rephrase that ... I don’t mean we can’t rate boats fairly without social media, what I wanted to convey was that the younger generation is getting better information quicker from multiple sources faster than the rest of us are accustom to. For example, between and after the races the cell phones come out. Before we even reach the dock they’ve got race results, they’ve got pictures of a boat shrimping their kite, they know who blew up their primary winch, they’ve watched a video of a major cluster fuck at the start, and who banged the corner and and got lucky at the finish. Essentially, they've got a pretty good mental picture of who sailed well, and who just sailed around the race course. Me? I’m not really that well connected. I might talk to a few people on the dock and a few more at the post race party, mostly I only care about the boats in my class. Maybe I’ll see some video or see some photos online later, maybe something particularly insightful will be posted on Sailing Anarchy. Then there’s that guy that sits in from of his computer and looks at results four months after the regatta, and he thinks that, tells the whole story. He doesn’t find out shit about what really happened at the regatta, he just says “5 out of 7, you guys suck.” Maybe the question shouldn’t be “How could we possibly rate boats fairly without social media?” but rather, “How can we possibly rate boats fairly without using all the available sources of information?”
  9. You meane licke sailmackeres? Yes, like "sailmackeres" and post college age sailors, maybe 30-45 years old, who are able to sail every weekend and travel outside of their own area. 50-70 yr old sailmakers, yacht designers, and engineers aren't necessarily connected to social media and know whats going on on the other boats. If you're not on the water racing, you're only getting second hand information.
  10. Originally the masts came with one halyard sheave, at some point the double sheaves became standard. I'm sure a second sheave can be added by a competent rigger, for a price. Single sheave (hull #24) Dual Sheaves (hull #80)
  11. John, It's interesting how you analyzed our sailing ability by reading race results on a computer screen 1,400 miles away, similar to how you criticize the PHRF committee for not being on the race course or asking around to find out what happened. You of course realize that Deviation wasn't the only YRALIS J88 there ... You're satisfied to base our performance on 2 last place finishes out of a 10 race series. We sailed in over 90 races in 2016, so you're basing your assessment on 11% or our races? ... lets see Hustler did 11 races in 2016, in 11% of Hustler's races last year they finished mid-fleet ... ironically the one J88 they beat last year at American was 2nd at Key West. The problem with Boat Owners being on the PHRF Committee is that they see things from one perspective; it is less likely that a boat owner will sail on multiple boats during the season. The people who we need on the committee should be sailing every weekend on different boats, they need to witness how different boat perform in different conditions and see when a boat makes stupid mistakes that cost it the regatta. I'm not sure how they think Iris can be on the PHRF Committee when they meet the same nights that we are racing? The J88 went for it's 3-year rating review last night. I suspect more than performance will be considered in determining the rating.
  12. Thanks, Jeff. I guess Pierside thinks we want to spend 7 days in Charleston for a 3 day regatta.
  13. Great Spring Tune-up Regatta half-way between American Spring and Cedar Point One-Design Regattas (this was actually pretty easy to find on Regatta Network this year) Lloyde Harbor NY, USA – May 20 - 21, 2017
  14. • Meeting lasted for 20 minutes • Steering Committee consisted of 2 Boat Owners, 3 Dealer/Industry, 2 Non-sailors • membership shows: 2 full (Current/Paid Owners) on same boat, 1 owner signed up as Associate • no weigh-in at Youngstown (presumably using Class Rule 6.1) • discussion over "owner driver" vs "Cat 1 driver" rule tabled in order to grow class • cushions optional Unfortunately the AGM isn't on May 6 or 7, where there could conceivably be 5 Boat Owners physically in the same location.
  15. maybe if you did some One-design racing you wouldn't be questioning other boats ratings