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  1. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    FOP the first requirement for casting metal at home is enlightened neighbours, ours even help! Although "TT" will not be entirely finished regarding some headlining & other minor interior woodwork we are going for the launch. While I was on the boat last weekend I noticed that there is not a part of it that has not been re-built or replaced during the past 3 years. It has turned into a lot larger project than originally estimated, however we have enjoyed every moment of it. Perhaps one day our two Holland yachts will meet up. M
  2. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    FOP Thank you for the guestbook comment on our website. Casting aluminium is not difficult but as I have found there are no short cuts. I had an idea to write a brief "how to cast it" PDF file describing what is needed. We have found casting parts for "Touch Too" invaluable since we cracked how to do it. I see you are getting on really well with "FOP", will you be launching this year? Our launch is planned for April, recently I have stopped working for others & am now full time finishing the boat, it has made a big difference to progress. Best regards, M.
  3. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    FOP when do you think she will be going in next year? What major items are left to do? Our list seems to stay the same length but the job sizes get smaller! M
  4. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    FOP How's it going? you seem to have gone quiet recently, we are still plugging away, spending money & squeezing into tight spaces. Is your boat back in the shed? Regards, M
  5. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    Yes the keelson looks the same as ours (fabricated aluminium) but the tube arrangement seems slightly different. I had thought about removing the fore-stay roller, fitting a rod & a chain-plate connection above the deck like you have. However I managed to convince myself that it has lasted over 30 years with 10mm 1x19 wire bent round the roller so it must be ok. One major problem was the shroud chain-plates were connected to the keelson frame with 50x6mm aluminium straps, these had corroded where they were bolted to the s/s chain-plates & eventually failed. They have been replaced with 75x6 316 s/s & isolated at the connection to the aluminum keelson frame. We are currently working on the interior & when the fuel tank is finished we hope to start the engine for the first time in 9 years. Also we have the new rigging wires quoted for & will order them at the end of this month (its all spend). Remember after a major DIY re-build there is not a single part of the boat that you are not intimate with! keep up the good work. MB.
  6. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    FOP She's looking great now! In one of your photo's it looks like you have a tubular space frame inside the forward cabin. Ours has one fitted which is also braced down to the forefoot & back to the alloy keelson, the 1:19 fore-stay passes through the deck & then round a large roller in the space frame end where it connects to the hull then down to the forefoot tube, from there it is linked to the keelson with a rod. There is a turnbuckle in the rod & the fore-stay under the deck. It seems that all of the rigging loads are centered on the alloy keelson & the main frame to which the chain plates are fitted. I know that "Imp" had this space frame & I would be interested to know if this was a common feature with Holland race yachts. MB
  7. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    FOP you are lucky being able to restore your boat indoors & from what I can see you have done a great paint job. Although we have not stripped the rudder yet my plan is to repair the damaged part, sheath with 2 x epoxy plain weave matt with staggered joins then spray with epoxy primer. However the weak spot for leaks will be the shaft as it enters the rudder, maybe a drain plug that could be removed when the boat is out of the water to prevent frost damage would help.
  8. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    Thank you "never was" for the compliment, I do not want to hijack FOP's thread so I will start a new one for any information about "TT's" early days.
  9. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    Moody Frog Thank you for your reply, would you mind if I used the info on our website?
  10. Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    anarchist, great project being well done. We are also re-building a Ron Holland 41.5ft IOR boat , see was originally called "Charlatan V" built in 1977 as an admirals cup boat but I cannot find any evidence of her taking part. There is a website describing the project so far www.touchtoo.co.uk . I have what looks like the same rudder problem but have yet to grind off the paint to discover how it was made, however it looks the same construction as yours. During the past 18 months we have sorted all of the structural problems & the deck, our next challenge is the mast & rigging.. Look forward to the launch it is always a great buzz. Malcolm.