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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. FOP the first requirement for casting metal at home is enlightened neighbours, ours even help! Although "TT" will not be entirely finished regarding some headlining & other minor interior woodwork we are going for the launch. While I was on the boat last weekend I noticed that there is not a part of it that has not been re-built or replaced during the past 3 years. It has turned into a lot larger project than originally estimated, however we have enjoyed every moment of it. Perhaps one day our two Holland yachts will meet up. M
  2. FOP Thank you for the guestbook comment on our website. Casting aluminium is not difficult but as I have found there are no short cuts. I had an idea to write a brief "how to cast it" PDF file describing what is needed. We have found casting parts for "Touch Too" invaluable since we cracked how to do it. I see you are getting on really well with "FOP", will you be launching this year? Our launch is planned for April, recently I have stopped working for others & am now full time finishing the boat, it has made a big difference to progress. Best regards, M.
  3. FOP when do you think she will be going in next year? What major items are left to do? Our list seems to stay the same length but the job sizes get smaller! M
  4. FOP How's it going? you seem to have gone quiet recently, we are still plugging away, spending money & squeezing into tight spaces. Is your boat back in the shed? Regards, M
  5. Yes the keelson looks the same as ours (fabricated aluminium) but the tube arrangement seems slightly different. I had thought about removing the fore-stay roller, fitting a rod & a chain-plate connection above the deck like you have. However I managed to convince myself that it has lasted over 30 years with 10mm 1x19 wire bent round the roller so it must be ok. One major problem was the shroud chain-plates were connected to the keelson frame with 50x6mm aluminium straps, these had corroded where they were bolted to the s/s chain-plates & eventually failed. They have been replaced with 75x6 316 s/s & isolated at the connection to the aluminum keelson frame. We are currently working on the interior & when the fuel tank is finished we hope to start the engine for the first time in 9 years. Also we have the new rigging wires quoted for & will order them at the end of this month (its all spend). Remember after a major DIY re-build there is not a single part of the boat that you are not intimate with! keep up the good work. MB.
  6. FOP She's looking great now! In one of your photo's it looks like you have a tubular space frame inside the forward cabin. Ours has one fitted which is also braced down to the forefoot & back to the alloy keelson, the 1:19 fore-stay passes through the deck & then round a large roller in the space frame end where it connects to the hull then down to the forefoot tube, from there it is linked to the keelson with a rod. There is a turnbuckle in the rod & the fore-stay under the deck. It seems that all of the rigging loads are centered on the alloy keelson & the main frame to which the chain plates are fitted. I know that "Imp" had this space frame & I would be interested to know if this was a common feature with Holland race yachts. MB
  7. FOP you are lucky being able to restore your boat indoors & from what I can see you have done a great paint job. Although we have not stripped the rudder yet my plan is to repair the damaged part, sheath with 2 x epoxy plain weave matt with staggered joins then spray with epoxy primer. However the weak spot for leaks will be the shaft as it enters the rudder, maybe a drain plug that could be removed when the boat is out of the water to prevent frost damage would help.
  8. Thank you "never was" for the compliment, I do not want to hijack FOP's thread so I will start a new one for any information about "TT's" early days.
  9. Moody Frog Thank you for your reply, would you mind if I used the info on our website?
  10. anarchist, great project being well done. We are also re-building a Ron Holland 41.5ft IOR boat , see was originally called "Charlatan V" built in 1977 as an admirals cup boat but I cannot find any evidence of her taking part. There is a website describing the project so far www.touchtoo.co.uk . I have what looks like the same rudder problem but have yet to grind off the paint to discover how it was made, however it looks the same construction as yours. During the past 18 months we have sorted all of the structural problems & the deck, our next challenge is the mast & rigging.. Look forward to the launch it is always a great buzz. Malcolm.