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Would like to see these polars you mentioned, sounds like BS to me. You forget that Idec, formerly Groupama 3, has been developed for over 12 years before the JV record, the Ultimes are in their infancy and will take time optimize. In the mean time, a reminder of G3 in their 2008 JV attempt. https://www.google.com/search?q=groupama+3+capsize&rlz=1C9BKJA_enCA864CA864&hl=en-US&prmd=ivn&sxsrf=ALeKk00RjhBvzsy-Dk8EBi0sTuCtj5eDXw:1611277448022&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiotrGfrK7uAhUVOH0KHaNUBeYQ_AUoAXoECAUQAQ&biw=1024&bih=653#imgrc=iTCrifsba6yzDM

Agreed, tried to make it work on the Multi 23, didn’t work. It works just fine for something like a canoe or Kayak.

Definitely a roll of the dice!

BTW, my question was meant as sarcasm. Having been in Hecate Strait in those conditions pretty sure you would be upside down in an AC 45. As for logs, yup know all about those!

Educate me how you would deal with 35 knts wind speed and 4m waves.

Russell - good to have a plan B although it would exclude anyone north of the border.

Great video, thanks for posting Russell .

Thought I would post this for those that don’t appreciate the amount of wood in the water on parts of the course, here is reminder of what’s out there. These are pics from 2019.

Yup, makes PERFECT sense to enter in an AC 45!

Spot on!

@CWK To put into perspective the Multi 50’s race with 5 for their fully crewed races, MOD 70’s take 6 on their long distance races i.e. Transatlantic, to think you can go with 6 on a multi on anything under 40’ without severely effecting it’s performance is a mistake. What Randy and the boys did on Mad Dog was amazing, having said that they had “relatively” benign conditions compared to some years. My question would be if you had a year where you have 30-35 knots and wave conditions that go along with it for several days how will you deal with it on a M32 or Extreme 40? I’m sure Randy had a plan for that eventuality. To me it’s a bit of a stretch to come up with the perfect boat for the R2AK, it depends on the conditions that year, 2019 we had 25+ in Johnston Strait with opposing current (the two boats behind us were hit with a 40knt micro burst) and we had similar conditions in Hecate Strait, the waves there were nasty, I’m not sure how you would deal with that in a M32 or something similar. If you want to win and have a boat that performs really well in a variety of conditions a SC 30 is your answer, assuming you can find one and afford it. If you want to try to beat the record than there is an extreme 40 for sale in the Bay Area but you are rolling the dice in regards to the weather being in your favour for 3 days, if it turns bad you are in the shit. If you are serious about going with something like a M32 you should talk to Randy and get some first hand insight.

So you are going on the outside even if the forecast favours the Inside a route?

+1

FD - What boat do you have?

Wasn’t there a proa entered in 2015?