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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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    The 470 is looking seriously dated, IMO
  2. Kite boats

    There was a sailor who crossed the Atlantic from France to Guadaloupe in the late 80s in a modified Figaro Solo with a kite for propulsion
  3. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

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  4. Doing away with winches

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  5. Doing away with winches

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  8. Doing away with winches

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  10. Doing away with winches

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