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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Keep in mind that small stuff like handrails can be added without extensive surgery. And you already stated that this boat will be an interim purchase that you expect to lose money on. So you can get as creative as you want with add-ons.
  2. Your overall plan sounds solid. Only issue might be getting the wife comfortable with sailing motion. Some folks just never get comfortable with heeling and repeated exposure doesn't help. Go easy on her if she doesn't adapt quickly. Don't go there, fucker.
  3. Based on where you'd be putzing around, go with the "that'll do" option.
  4. The hulls all seem to have dual parallel taped lines. I'm guessing one is a waterline mark, and maybe used to set level? Not sure of the need for the other, or why two are needed? Just curious.
  5. Edward Whittemore has an interesting quartet series dealing with the history of Jerusalem and the middle east. Mixes historical facts with some bizarre twists. One of the characters for instance is seemingly based on Sir Richard Burton, the 19th century explorer; and the true bible is the writings of on an imbecile translating a blind beggars tales. Strange books but very interesting. The first two books, Sinai Tapestry and Jerusalem Poker are the preferred of the 4. The Stepford trilogy by Robertson Davies is another series to consider. They can get complex at times, but never drag.
  6. It's tough finding a decent pic of the boat in action. Next season I'll have to get my marina mates some good cameras.
  7. "minus Beaufort" Are you a Chesapeake sailor? You seem to have nailed our summer conditions pretty well. I've motored far more than I care to this year. No, not on the bay. I sail on Lake St. Clair in MI. We get a taste of those hot steamers, but not for the extended periods you folks get.
  8. Boy, you guys are tough. It all sounds nice and good unless you're out for a sail on busy weekend and the wind drops to minus Beaufort, and the hundreds of powerboats out that weekend have resulted in an unending, indiscernible chop pattern, and it's hot. So you can wait for the wind and bob erratically for hours getting brain-addled from the heat while the sails slap like a jerkin teen, or stash the sails and motor the few miles in. Call it. (I should be retired next summer so most sailing will be during the week. I'll probably be less cranky.)
  9. yeah, poor proofreading/editing on the CG booklet. They did have a table that supported the text that only had measurement in feet. Still sloppy, though.
  10. A few years ago I did some research regarding that LxB/15 formula. IIRC, it goes back quite a few years, and, as stated, was meant to be a rough guideline. The important part of the original wording, and the part that is always forgotten, was some qualifying phrasing, something like “does not include or account for engines or drive mechanisms, bulkheads, framing, furniture, etc…..”. It was essentially a maximum formula for an empty hull, to be modified by the boat builder as hardware and structure was added. (Interestingly, the formula does seem to work for something like an emergency lifeboat.) As is typical, few people included the qualifying phrasing when they quoted or referred to the rule, so it became totally misunderstood and misused. Sorry, can’t re-locate those old documents I’m referencing. Someone out there must have a bored kid that can do some searching in exchange for a few beers or something. And they meant it for block-shaped hulls, like barges, not fine-ended ones like sailboats. But if it didn't take into account internal bulkheads and framing, engines and tankage, why on earth is it even used as a formula for number of passengers? I think this "formula" is (or has become) more of a danger to be misused than good guidance when you don't have other guidance. The CG states that the formula is not for boats longer than 20 ft. (see below). 20 feet is also the high limit of a boat that legally requires a capacity plate. So they are just using the formula for boats that should be plated but aren't. If an owner of a larger boat uses the formula that is the owner's problem. Sorry. I don't think the CG wants to get into specifying requirements for all personal boats. And I think that we do not want them to get involved in making that determination. From http://uscgboating.org/images/420.PDF If there is no capacity plate, use the following formula as a guide to de- termine the maximum number of persons you can safely carry in calm weather . The formula is applicable only to mono-hull boats less than 20 feet (12 meters) in length . A mono-hull is a boat that makes a single “footprint” in the water when loaded to its rated capacity; catamarans, trimarans, and pontoon boats are not mono-hull boats .
  11. A few years ago I did some research regarding that LxB/15 formula. IIRC, it goes back quite a few years, and, as stated, was meant to be a rough guideline. The important part of the original wording, and the part that is always forgotten, was some qualifying phrasing, something like “does not include or account for engines or drive mechanisms, bulkheads, framing, furniture, etc…..”. It was essentially a maximum formula for an empty hull, to be modified by the boat builder as hardware and structure was added. (Interestingly, the formula does seem to work for something like an emergency lifeboat.) As is typical, few people included the qualifying phrasing when they quoted or referred to the rule, so it became totally misunderstood and misused. Sorry, can’t re-locate those old documents I’m referencing. Someone out there must have a bored kid that can do some searching in exchange for a few beers or something.
  12. Hey, that's my retirement plan! Except she has to be mute too.
  13. ...When I saw this on the video ....cringe! Looks like something a prior owner might do - but not something that should come that way "new". NO! What is it that causes you such heartburn?
  14. I know one of you guys in WA is gonna get too involved with this. Best of luck to ya.
  15. With 5/16 line you'll probably be okay. Just check the surface where the line rides for any burrs from the wire.