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  1. Word on the street is that no national championship is organised for this year? I remember Southport being mentioned but this must have fallen through. Looks like Airlie Beach is going to be the regatta with the most competition. Not a bad place .........
  2. Sorry Peter, Div 1 is OMR without crew weight of 0.9 and above. Boom without crew is 0.908, actually for Geelong the cutoff was lowered to allow Airplay to race with Div 1. You will have to add a fair bit more weight to keep out of div 1 if that's what you want. 900 kg without crew will do the trick. Perhaps a big anchor and chain? Seems the rule treats lighter boats harshly in general. The airplay should never rate below .950 IMO just from looking at the boat with no information. That's an issue with the rule for sure. More weight is often advantageous on the wind..... Trilogy falls into a similar bucket. 2 ton and rates low. I've had a recent study of the rule and it seems to strongly encourage heavy boats with small spinnakers / screeches. The F22 should not be in Div one.
  3. Of course there are internal halyards. It's foam core in the side walls not solid foam. You would taper to solid laminate at each sheave box / strong point etc. Of course there are internal halyards. It's foam core in the side walls not solid foam. You would taper to solid laminate at each sheave box / strong point etc. Of course there are internal halyards. It's foam core in the side walls not solid foam. You would taper to solid laminate at each sheave box / strong point etc. Sorry for the triple up there.
  4. This is the only mast I have seen that uses foam and a sheer web in a rig. How come none of the heavy hitters engineer like this? Presentation wise they are a glamour. Well done.
  5. Good on you mate. It's Farrier that is the first to get on here and knock the interior of Trilogy - you knuckle head. And why would you race with cushions in etc. probably why you are in Div 2 and go so slow and why Trilogy has won more OMR events than you have had hot dinners.
  6. It is a very nice boat - I was able look at it a few times during the build, and Wayne did a great job, with some nice features. Hard to believe that was 20 years ago! But still not what I would call a cruiser, this is a cruiser: F-32AXinterior.jpg (F-32AX) Ian Farrier Farrier Marine Designs that work If you put the fancy cushions in Trilogy it would look every bit as comfy as your Farrier cruising interior to my eye. In fact it looks significantly roomier and with a better layout. This 20+ year old design actually looks far more modern than the yet to be launched F boat..... In my opinion of course.
  7. Not a bad rating. It'll be interesting once one gets into Oz and we see it up against the Seacart and others. Not a bad rating. It'll be interesting once one gets into Oz and we see it up against the Seacart and others. I would expect it to sail to that rating. The spec's are well short of the Seacart and Tony said he was not trying to compete with the seacart on performance, rather to be a better racing/cruising compromise. Must be around 1600kg I would suspect for that rating. Puts it 300kg heavier than Bare Essentials and around 200kg lighter than Trilogy. Looks more like a Trilogy development than the Essential 8. Large amount of rocker aft in the main hull and wide and flat the same as Trilogy.
  8. So still unwilling to use your name to back your criticisms, which are again tending towards personal invective. Just who is this representative of mine that is hiding his commercial interest? You claim no commercial interest, claim to be happy with your current boat (still undisclosed), yet are not willing to back anything with your name. My credentials are here: http://www.f-boat.com/pages/background/history.html and here http://www.f-boat.com/pages/News4/FM-Factory2014.html Right out in full public view. Where are yours? Ian Farrier Farrier Marine Designs that work It must take a certain amount of raw nerve, ego or ignorance to demand what I am under no obligation to provide. There was no criticism. I said I thought it was a nice little boat. That it is still not ready, and is much later and far more expensive than you promised is a fact that you admit yourself. Criticism would be if I had said something like you are a has been or a one dimensional one hit wonder that designs relatively slow multihulls and pissed your business partners to the point you could not keep a company together. But I did not say that. If you are unable to figure out which of your various representatives on this thread has not included their name and highlighted their affiliation with you in their signature I guess that says something. Do you know how many of them have posted here? Is being a customer a credential? There is no point trying to reason with Farrier. Seems he always has to have the last say....... The irony is his Aus rep getting on here and bagging the hell out of the Grainger 075 in another thread. Not exactly professional conduct.
  9. Talk to north sails and they will walk you through it.
  10. Bad technique, bad furling cable and incorrect cable tension are the reasons furling won't work. Not saying this is you, but most multi sailors that have tried it, have used a sailmaker with no experience and are too tight to buy the proper top down furlers and proper torque cable. Will always be more difficult to furl a nylon Shute that is really full (I.e a slower design that needs fuller shutes - like Peter Hackett!! Vs a faster Div 1 style boat that can run laminate shutes that are straighter luffed and flatter)
  11. Agree however I don't think it will take many years. I think Bob Oatley will be there with a multihull very soon. he will get the same reply, bob is not the CYCA No he is the HIYC and he has a tremendous influence on the CYCA and the event sponsors. Money talks louder than tradition. How did canting keelers get into S2H? He will not get the same reply. He will not even be asking the same question. If the CYC read the amount if dribble you are writing they will never entertain the idea of multis. If multis were all you claim them to be then we wouldn't be debating this. Put a sock in it mate.
  12. You do understand that the flag officers and officials have had to stand up in the courts and justify their decisions as to the boats they allow to enter their races, on more than one occasion, don't you.When the results of the investigations into the deaths in this race clearly states that all boats in the race shall be self righting from 115 degrees, how would they explain letting multihulls into the race, directly contravening the results of the investigation. I am not sure saying that multi's have been allowed in other races so they thought it was ok would hold much weight if someone on an upside down multi died. We need to keep in mind both sides of the situation before getting too upset at their decisions. Safety is not doubt the reason for the decision. Possibly not the safety of the competitors though. The very idea that self righting could be considered safer than positive buoyancy leaves me speechless. A multihull flips / capsizes ( just like how you capsized your own boat a few weeks ago remember). A monohull is self righting and in most cases will lye on its side before the lead returns it upright. Can you please explain how positive buoyancy is safer?
  13. You do understand that the flag officers and officials have had to stand up in the courts and justify their decisions as to the boats they allow to enter their races, on more than one occasion, don't you.When the results of the investigations into the deaths in this race clearly states that all boats in the race shall be self righting from 115 degrees, how would they explain letting multihulls into the race, directly contravening the results of the investigation. I am not sure saying that multi's have been allowed in other races so they thought it was ok would hold much weight if someone on an upside down multi died. We need to keep in mind both sides of the situation before getting too upset at their decisions. Safety is not doubt the reason for the decision. Possibly not the safety of the competitors though. A diplomatic version of my previous post. The Grand Prix multis are marginal when the weather turns to shit. Not really the race for mainstream type multis. It's amusing that all Nuddy and others have to argue about is the CYCA 'powerboats' and how they are hard done by. Why hang off the coat tails of the monos if its such a concern. Perhaps if the same amount of time was spent organizing a multihull race instead of posting on Anarchy......... Talk is cheap......
  14. Exactly. Nice post Here is my 2 cents worth. Firstly - I own a racing trimaran in Australia so lets get that out of the way. Secondly - To ausmulti's your continual whinge about monohull powerboats shows your ignorance and only adds to why multihull sailors have the reputation they have. Have you sailed one of these top end 'powerboats'. I have. I have done 2 Hobarts in one and am doing another this year. Thirdly - Multihulls in the Hobart race is a dumb idea and anyone who thinks it is a great idea needs to be questioned. (remember I am a racing trimaran owner) If you get a southerly front in Bass Straight (which you normally do) with wind against tide (tide always south bound so wind against tide) it is absolutely no place for a multihull. They are heinous boats in conditions like this and are dangerous. Thats a fact. Multi's should stick to coastal races (Gladstone / Coffs). Fourthly - What multihulls are going to enter a Hobart race. Take out the 2 x ORMA's. I cant think of many that are prepared enough and are good enough to enter and have the ability to withstand a southerly blow. You certainly would not take a Pescott catamaran or similar. So how many realistic and/or half interesting entrants will you get? Fifthly - The CYCA have dealt with safety issues and deaths in this race before. I can see why they would be reluctant to let multihulls in the race. Monohulls are much much safer boats. Sixthly - If you dont like whats going on (and as others have said) go and organise your own event instead of trying to hang off the coat tails of the CYCA run Hobart race and whinging when you dont get multihull entries accepted and whinging about monohulls. What are you school kids.
  15. I guess you are talking about the new 'poverty pack' SeaCart 30. Pity they kept the same name. The real SeaCart 30 has a 15.2M rig and the Raw 30 will not be a serious contender with that. Do you think you should hold off a little on the complete praise of the Seacart until it races a proper regatta with more wind? No question it is a weapon in the light with its huge main and upwind screecher, narrow beam and light weight. I think we need a bit more allround information before we say that a boat like a grainger tri will be no match...... It looked as if Indian Chief had its measure when the breeze was in? Any intel on this?