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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. Here's a hint... Called White Pearl, as end higher than front, sails and hull (yup tall) look proportionately similar too... Frigate or Galleon (3 masted) or whatever you correctly call it... Modern (future) day Pirates of the Caribbean for what it's worth I've met Phillipe Starck, a couple times... I get it... I know you won't even let the door open a crack not to be cynical It's pretty funny So...
  2. My father and I were at a regatta together when I was 15. I was pretty smug as my dad and I were sailing on a hot boat leading our class. I looked at our main competition (it was the last day of regatta) all dressed in team uniforms stretching and doing excersises on the front lawn of the yacht club. These guys were so over the top, on land and holly S**** on the water. I told my father what I thought of them, and how great it would be if they just got into a diffrent class. He calmly looked at me, and said something I will never forget and often share with people. Sailing should be an all inclusive sport, you may not agree or like those guys, but be open and respect them for the sport and for the sports sake. And if anything else, be entertained by it all. Now we are on a J 88 thread. And the bashing starts. Again. I've seen Dr L new boat, it's beautiful and has many of the things talked about on this thread, and more. Ive been very tempted to share pics, but I won't.
  3. On the rating front!!!...I noticed that the J boat PHRF base for the J 88 is 87 (105 lp jib and 95 sq m kite). Does this 87 for Charleston reflect that? What sails are allowed for that rating? NE PHRF and Galveston gave the boat a 87 as well, and I wonder what sails the boat in Key West had with an 84? for what configuration? Thanks if anyone can chime in.
  4. Have there been any other 88's out there that have applied and received their PHRF numbers? And where was it issued? Bill's Sock Puppet thanks for that chart a few pages ago. It would be nice to know whats going on out there...looks like No Cal was hard, the J 88 rates 69 up there!
  5. Any info out there on the Code 0 / A 3 bobstay debate? Anybody have this set up, be great to hear feedback!
  6. Are most of you owners going with the shore power option? What are the alternatives?...I've been on boats that use a battery charger plugged right into dock shore power outlet with the little 3 plug converter thing, seems like it would be lighter?
  7. Anybody heard or know about additional sails outside one design for point to point racing? I see quantum offers an A - 3 which fits the slot between an A - 2 and the class jib.
  8. And the other questions I have are... 1. I'm assuming the boat doesn't come with a kelp cutter? Bummer. 2. And the optional black on stanchions, is it durable anodizing? arr4ws video above has them. Any impressions?
  9. Anybody looking into "optional" point to point offshore sails? I notice that Quantum offer an A3 which covers reaching abit. Post 454 above...
  10. Agreed. Seems like some people are here to discuss each other and the politics of this place more than sailing. Message to ED, Please stop this dribble it is ruining a place that has a lot of potential. Such a shame that 3 or four people can ruin a forum. Yes,yes yes. I've pleaded before for people to understand that most of us come to look at these forums because, yes, we want to read and contribute on sailing, yes sailing subjects! To have to read these pity, stupid, mud slinging post directed at each other, really sucks. What gets me is that these people go on and on, knowing the majority of us are having to view their dribble. Really narcissistic and childish beyond belief. Please ED, get this back on track somehow...
  11. Here are two pics showing that observation...
  12. One thing I noticed on Artemis. The ribs on the first element are perpendicular to the leading edge, so presenting a slightly angled profile on surface to the (horizontal) wind. Anybody out there with skills to post side by side pics? ...