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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. What can I say, but wow, this is going to be a fun series. While the Easter Regatta was a warmup event it featured aggressive sailing, strong competition, and every type of weather imaginable. Friday, with racing delayed nearly an hour for the breeze to fill in, had sun, 15-20 knots of breeze, and 3 windward/leeward races. Saturday, by forecast the windiest of the regatta, was limited to a fixed buoy course with a short reaching start to a laid mark, then a bear away to a run with a course that was more reach/run than beat. They got everyone off the water before the breeziest squalls arrived, so while there was some carnage, it was nothing like what was to come on Sunday. The last race was started in 20-25 knots, with what was effectively a downwind start, then a long beat, a shorter run, and then a beat to a shortened course finish. It was in many respects an inverted w/l course. We saw 35+ on our instruments for sustained periods and there were reports of gusts to 40 from other boats, with many shredded kites, and 2 MOB incidents (all recovered safely), and 2 broken bowsprits in the fast40+ class. There were several major questions looming for us on OV, prior to the start. Since the keel change we had not competed in a single W/L event nor had we had any reaching or running boat for boat with the Carkeek 40 or Ker40+ designs. First, would we see any meaningful improvement in upwind performance that could be converted to a meaningful competitive edge. Second, would we be able to keep up downwind against the lighter/newer/more powerful designs, and third, how big would our reaching deficit be knowing that our relative lack of volume forward will always make it hard for OV when jib reaching. And of course, the majority of the crew was new to the boat, would we gel, could we get around the course without major issues when under pressure, and would the fun component be maintained. Key learnings: 1) Otra Vez is competitive with the newer designs. Upwind she has legs on the fleet and when we get out in front upwind she walks away. 2) Running in moderate to fresh conditions she can hold her place, and in w/l races this is a key advantage. 3) We have a lot of work to do on reaching performance versus the newer designs. We will need to solve sail trim, weight placement, and sail choice issues to not suffer badly on tight reaching legs. 4) Lots of small improvements in sail handling and boat handling to come. The work list of small tweaks is long, but the fleet is going to push everyone's level up. 5) The crew work improved every day and we had fun as a group. For me, this was the most important outcome of the weekend. In terms of the actual racing, the first three races saw us go from an average, to a good, to a great start, and in race 3 we lead around every mark, as a result. Saturday, we had a "scrappy day", a few driver error wipeouts (3 or 4 as i lost count of my mistakes), a poor reaching leg where Jubilee, the GP42, rolled us like we were standing still and a poor beat where i let the boat stray from the targets for far too long as I was still thinking about the reaching leg. Focus, Focus, Focus!!! Sunday was a near survival day and we finished without breaking anybody or anything. Even after the keel change OV is still a bit nosy downwind, and after Saturdays performance we implemented the aggressive aft stack both in the boat and on deck as we used to with the old keel. I think you will see in the photos in Presuming Ed's post how tightly packed the team was downwind (we did not do that well on Saturday). We also glued in some lee cloth track in the compartment behind the traveller bulkhead and will keep all the loose gear except for the safety equipment there, under some custom lee cloths. For the first run, we were just ahead to windward of Invictus for the entire run. We were in the low 20's the entire time, and while Invictus clearly had a little more juice it was not enough for them to get through. They had a better drop, got inside at the mark and led us upwind, but OV legged it out and rounded the top mark first and again led the rest of the race on the water. All the owners I have met have been gracious and welcoming to Otra Vez and I think we are going to have an amazing time on the water. Bill
  2. Otra Vez is currently at Hamble Yacht Services in the Uk. The winter project list is pretty small, with a non-skid respray and moving the jib leads inboard being the majority of the effort. We are hoping to get an effective sheeting angle of 4.5 degrees with the changes to the jib leads. A few photos of the work that is just getting started... For the more technical minded we are using 200kg/m3 HD core as was originally specified for the boat, then 7 layers of uni-directional carbon and 3 layers of db carbo, which is 2 skins more than the original spec. We hope to finish the jib lead mods by the middle of next week then the painters will take over and shoot the deck. Our first regatta on a Fast40+ startline is the RORC Easter Challenge, March 25-27. Bill
  3. My thoughts... get an endorsed certificate...its always more favorable....most boats are much heavier than the number on the brochure check every measurement, Forestay Length is especially sensitive... with the disclaimer that this holds true for the boats i have owned...1 sqm of Head sail area (HSA) is roughly 0.001 and 2.5 sqm of spinnaker area (SPA) is 0.001 make the bottom perfect including the keel and rudder (template, blueprint, longboard) it costs you nothing but money/time and is the best investment you can make IRC prefers high aspect mainsails, roach up high is expensive... know your venues...don't get penalized for Sail Area or extra kites that you don't use, ie stick to 3 kites on the certificate, don't over complicate you life with too many sail choices a 3 blade folding prop will save you 0.001, if you have anything but the gori racing prop, their 3 blade will actually reduce your drag...compared to most folding 2 blades Sailing the boat well is more important that it being perfectly optimized. Bill
  4. Something doesn't add up. There has got to be more to the story. The world of a professional racing sailor is nothing like that of a sailor in the merchant marine and by litigating he had to know he would never work in the industry again. It seems an odd choice to forgo decades of potential employment for what would be, after lawyers fee's, a relatively small amount of cash. Bill
  5. obviously, boats optimize for ORC, as they do for any rule.., but it's worth considering at first that unlike IRC.., ORC is not designed to be a type-forming rule. that is, within certain design parameters, ORC attempts to rate boats "fairly" IRC explicitly does not attempt to do this, rather in a relative sense IRC purposely gives rating credits to design features the rule likes, and penalties to design features it doesn't like. so, one might argue that for most boats, optimization is less important under ORC than under IRC Well said us7070 it is about time we are all able to race under a fair handicap system like ORC which rates the boat only for its performance, unlike IRC, with its secret non transparent rule, selects what boats they like and who they like in giving ratings to. ORC is so much fairer than IRC in being transparent, cheaper to rate, unnecessary to optimise to the extent as under IRC and able to rate both displacement and planing designs equally so the can compete together in handicap racing. Been there, done this. It is possible to get a 4-5 minute per hour difference in rating between two boats when changing systems. ORC has as many peculiarities as IRC and there are ORC winners (Swan 45) as well as boats that rate poorly. Bill
  6. With the 2015 IRC rule we have gotten into the rating band with two changes. Reducing the A2 size from 220 to 210 sqm and going to a 3 blade folding. We have the entire upwind inventory at our disposal and i am hopeful we can get to only changing the kite size. I think a lot will be determined by the course selection. OV is a much bigger boat than the 40's and any course with an equal up/down ratio is going to favor her. I think on a run we will be fine, it is the reaching performance that we need to check. Spookie clearly had our number reaching in the old configuration. We have a great team and I can't wait for the sailing to start. Bill
  7. That would be perfect...22-25 is a real sweet spot for OV Bill
  8. Otra Vez will be out on the water for the last race of the winter series at the end of the month. Its been a long time since I raced in the cold. Bill
  9. As the Fast 40+ moves closer to reality their seems to be interest from the slightly bigger and faster 40's as well. I know that Interlodge is thinking of coming across, and with a Ker 46 or 2 and maybe a carkeek 44 you could have quite a good Fast 45ish fleet as well. Bill
  10. Oddly enough, there is some pent up demand for this class and it is exactly what i have been looking for since I bought OV in late 2013.. As noted earlier i was at the owners meeting and there were 11 other owners in the room who are writing checks to fund the class association. The list of boats is: 1 x Ker 40 at 1.191 1 x Ker 40 (Mod) at 1.210 3 x Ker40+ at 1.268 1 x Ker 43 at 1.270 (class upper limit) 2 x Carkeek 40 at 1.267 1 x GP42 at 1.267 1 x GP42 at 1.260 1 x GP42 at 1.257 1 x GP42 at 1.241 1 x HH42 at 1.227 I believe 2 of the Ker 40+ are under construction as well as 1 Carkeek 40. The other 10 are already in the area. If we can get 10 boats on the line by the end of the season and have some close racing then it would be a success for the first real year of the class. As an aside, If you want grad prix quality racing and don't want to invest in a TP52 then this could be the right answer. Bill
  11. It will be an interesting year for the fast40+ as the class is quite wide (1.189 - 1.270) and Otra Vez will owe Keronimo about 245 seconds an hour and the HH42 about 135 seconds an hour. At the moment the class is not a first over the line wins, but just an IRC band. Usually for a given package your try to slow the boat down on paper in IRC and many boats are designed specifically to exploit perceived weaknesses in the rule. The Ker40+, Carkeek rate 1.268 give or take, so at a 6 seconds per hour delta to OV it will nearly be boat for boat. We might find that boats at the lower end of the band are better placed, for us the stronger the wind the better. The pro limit is 5 not 6...RIBs are not allowed to be used in a support role while racing...and as far as i know, all the boats are North with the exception of Otra Vez which is a Quantum program. The stated goal is grand prix quality racing and the word corinthian is not mentioned anywhere. Most of the boats are mini-52's in some way (pedestal grinder, string drop systems, etc). They are simply rigged but need excellent sail trim to pay off the rating unless its really blowing downwind. Our slowdown optimization is focused on maintaining upwind speed and reducing kite size to get into the band as controlling the beat is important if you are the big boat in the class. A soto40 that rates around 1.215 or so might be competitive. It would be interesting to see if you can get there. Bill
  12. I was at the owners meeting last night. It looks like there will be minimum 10, likely 12, and by the end of the season maybe 14 boats participating. Class entry fee is 750 pounds, so not a backbreaker. There are a total of 10 events on the schedule, five of which are Fast40+ series events and five where the intent is to have a class start. Most prevelant are Ker 40+, Carkeek 40 mkII, and modified GP42's. For 2016, standard Ker 40's will be able to race, but after that, they will need to be modified to get into the speed band of 1.210-1.270 with a DLR <110. For existing boats,up to 13.30 meters LH will be permitted. There are also draft and speed ratio's that need to be respected. Looking at a Soto40 trial cert she seems to meet all the requirements. It has the makings of a great series and we are looking forward to competing. Otra Vez left Palma yesterday and will arrive in Southamption on the 16th. Bill