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    The Clyde, Scotland
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    Whisky, Sailing Photography and ski-ing

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    Magregor 26's big brother at 17KTs

    Finally the 4th mode is revealed :-)
  2. very glad to see her floating at last, now where she should be, in the water. Well done Hotrod for getting her there. Not at all what I like in the way of boats, but for a house boat, she is not too bad.
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    Older well known IOR Boats

    Spoke to Bill today and told him about this discussion and it started a trip down memory lane..... :-) There's a fair bit of nostalgia on here for these old boats; things may have moved on, quicker, lighter, faster, but many of us have great memories associated with mucking about in/with boats of the IOR era. If you're in touch with Bill would it be possible to find out how many Ministars were built? or indeed the whereabouts of Billycan 80 - I'm sure the Mini Ton contingent would be keen to know what might be out there. Bill said he thinks there are 4 out there, the first one built was a new Epoxy one, where some rowing skiff builders came up to show them how to use the new system, but that hull was cut out the mold with a chainsaw..... Not certain where Billycan is though.
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    Older well known IOR Boats

    Spoke to Bill today and told him about this discussion and it started a trip down memory lane..... :-) There's a fair bit of nostalgia on here for these old boats; things may have moved on, quicker, lighter, faster, but many of us have great memories associated with mucking about in/with boats of the IOR era. If you're in touch with Bill would it be possible to find out how many Ministars were built? or indeed the whereabouts of Billycan 80 - I'm sure the Mini Ton contingent would be keen to know what might be out there. I will ask him next week..
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    Older well known IOR Boats

    Spoke to Bill today and told him about this discussion and it started a trip down memory lane..... :-)
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    Older well known IOR Boats

    I last saw Jade in Portavadie Marina, Loch Fyne.:-)
  7. Did you not see in the video of TNZ boat two the use of 2x4's, Must have got inspiration from this boat. After all think of the design budget for this build :-)
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    Older well known IOR Boats

    She went to France after that
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    Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    Heavy Metal, I was thinking of a new rudder when I realized that the old one was soaked with water, now when I have opened it and realize that it is rather good I will keep it, in addition the weight of this one is probably 60-80 kg maybe more and I don´t want to start to change the ballast and move things if the trim would change with a new rudder. As it is know the main focus is to get her in the water for next year and I am afraid it will be tight even if we have 8-10 months available..... I am off to your part of the world in a few days or maybe a week and will be there for 4-5 weeks all in all and that is not good for the progress here. A new update will follow shortly if you guys are interested. FOP Personally from my experience of IOR, I would take the loss of weight and also then reduce the width of the skeg to match the new rudder and enjoy the increase in performance. No more having to have the crew on the foredeck to get the arse out of the water. Would not change the ballast at all. Maybe for the first winter after you are back in the water, time to go sailing soon I feel. By the way, Great job so far. Love this thread. Hi, interesting to hear about a new rudder, how do you think the performance can increase? I will look into this issue later... I will not bore you with more sanding photos but tomorrow I change weapon from my absolutely best friends the last year the fabulous Mirka Cereo Orbit 5,0 to my brand new spray gun. I am now satisfied with the finish and tomorrow morning I will start to apply Awlgrip 545 clear on the topsides. Actually I am a bit nervous about the work it is a big task and it is not easy to recover if you make mistakes I think the performance can increase by a good reduction in drag by using a more modern shape. If you narrow down the width of the skig to match a new rudder design, with far less cord, and deeper design, this will again reduce the drag at the back of the boat. I had many light airs races with the all of us crew are lined up on the foredeck starting at the pullpit, to get the back end of the boat out of the water and reduce wetted surface area. I am also assuming a new rudder would also be lighter.
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    Restoration Ron Holland IOR racer Flirt of Paget (2)

    Heavy Metal, I was thinking of a new rudder when I realized that the old one was soaked with water, now when I have opened it and realize that it is rather good I will keep it, in addition the weight of this one is probably 60-80 kg maybe more and I don´t want to start to change the ballast and move things if the trim would change with a new rudder. As it is know the main focus is to get her in the water for next year and I am afraid it will be tight even if we have 8-10 months available..... I am off to your part of the world in a few days or maybe a week and will be there for 4-5 weeks all in all and that is not good for the progress here. A new update will follow shortly if you guys are interested. FOP Personally from my experience of IOR, I would take the loss of weight and also then reduce the width of the skeg to match the new rudder and enjoy the increase in performance. No more having to have the crew on the foredeck to get the arse out of the water. Would not change the ballast at all. Maybe for the first winter after you are back in the water, time to go sailing soon I feel. By the way, Great job so far. Love this thread.
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Lots of room on a Classic Dragon
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    And under sail (builder again on the bow...)
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    The guy on the yellow top on the bow in these pictures is the boat builder Picture 1
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    The coach roofs varied by builder, almost as an identity. Still think it very dragon esque. Forestay is in the right place, ruder stock is right, mainsheet is right, boom length/height is right. Now I am going to have to go and do some hunting around and see if I can find some pictures of my Grand fathers McGruer built classic dragon from far too many years before I was thought of, to see what it looks like. The two Dragons we raced in Germany (both registered as Classic Dragons) are so different from the new ones, but my dad remembered the look and feel of them well (he used to cruise it around the West Coast of Scotland). The varnished one (in my photo) was a final project to get the German boat building certificate by a boat builder for himself. Somewhere I have a photo of him on his boat, so you can see the craftsman that created her. Anyway, whatever she (the original varnished yacht) is she is just lovely to the eye (I still prefer the modern Pedersen (1960's coach roof design) and Dragons are very low and wet to sail. My pet hate as a kid was picking up the mooring on the dragon as there was nothing to hold onto when you were leaning over he very skinny bow to pick up the buoy, except the forestay with your legs, if we ran a bit short in the luff up. Can't wait to see your new Day Sailor in the water.
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    15 Square Meter boat? The higher house kind of kills the Dragon idea, but it could be a one off? I agree, even the 1950's Dragons that had a pop top cuddy for cruising "headroom" didn't have a sliding companionway hatch, but it's certainly a graceful looking boat. Here are two Classic dragons. Varnished one is a modern "Master Piece" by a German boatbuilder to the origional runes, the white one behind is an origional classic dragon. I would go with the Dragon idea...... On another point, 94 pages:-) Wow, this realy is a great thread.