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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. You definitely want both boards down upwind (unitl hull fly or you fear breaking them). The drag of the second board (should) be substantially offset by the decreased leeway. Also, keep in mind that it isn't just the rudders running at a high AOA that increases drag, but the leeway of the hull itself is very draggy. A hull moving through the water "sideways" isn't efficient. Wess-remember that the hull AND rudders are contributing to leeway resistance. As you add board (either one board very deep or two boards) the proportion of leeway the board adds in comparison to the rudder increases. So more board moves the CLR fwd and relieves the rudders. Doesn't matter if it's one board or two. We had to sail Soma 100 miles upwind without boards once. It sucked, but we did it. The helm was very heavy and the rudders REALLY wanted to stall. That's a very fine entry on those boards. Low drag, but they stall easily.
  2. Changing the surface finish will change the onset of hum. My old boards used to hum at 12 knots, then we faired and wetsanded. The hum kicked in at more like 16 knots. It felt slow because I used that 12-knot hum as an indicator of boat speed upwind. Anything below 12 (ie not humming) and I should foot. When the board went quiet I lost that feedback. As others said, "breaking" the trailing edge will help, too. If you want to beanplate it, break the inboard side.
  3. The wasteland I referred to was outside Xiamen, China at the Hudson/HH factory. I was involved with the build of 4 HH cats over there. The city is great, and the facility and workers are great, but I found the experience terribly frustrating.
  4. Y You're right, my comment was uncalled for. I still think of myself as an individual and forget that my personal feelings can be confused as Gunboat marketing.
  5. Ha! America isn't a 3rd world country (yet). I was most definitely NOT referring to NC or RI.
  6. I feel like there's a question in there somewhere (pointed or otherwise). I'm still amazed that Outremer manages to produce great and affordable boats in LGM, but they do. Their order book is full for years out and they're profitable (AFAIK). That's the dream, isn't it? Building good boats, at a profit, in a beautiful spot? Building bad boats, at a loss, in an industrial wasteland in some dystopian 3rd world country doesn't hold much appeal for me... Granted...an Outremer certainly isn't a Gunboat (and we haven't built a Gunboat yet), but LGM is a cute little town. Ask again in a year and we'll see how we are doing then...for now, we're all good.
  7. Ease hike trim to the yellow courtesy phone...
  8. Getting closer...
  9. Chris is on quite a streak. Billzo at Aquidneck Custom has a 70'(?) CW under contraction. Goetz has a 70. Not bad.
  10. Check the wrap up video. That was a great week. https://www.facebook.com/gunboatcatamarans/videos/10155118935598490/
  11. Agreed, the Anomoly is a great product. I've tried to tell everyone that'll listen how great it is.
  12. Full credit to the bankruptcy administrators. I dont think anyone realistically hoped for more than $0.10 on the $1. Obviously, it would've been better if everyone got paid in full, but nearly 12% isnt bad.
  13. Fantastic day sailing. The best part was the "big tent" party after racing. Pics to follow on FB. Nanny Cay and BVI Painters really knocked it out of the park for us. I was very glad to see the guys from Nala and Triple Jack there. Tomorrow is the VPLP/Willy T party. Giddy up!!!
  14. She won't race, but hopefully she will do a flyby.
  15. Tigerlily has sold and the current owners don't have interest in racing. Zenyatta is spending the season in the Bahamas, as is Coco. Tribe is in the neighborhood but they have other plans and we hope to see them at some (or all) of the parties. The owners of Toccata are here socially, and the crew from FT are here socially. We hope to see the Gunboat 90 make an appearance as well. Fujin picked their events before we jumped on BVI Spring and couldn't reschedule their season. Very bummed they aren't here. We'd love to see many more boats here. It's great flat water sailing with (usually) great wind and beautiful scenery. Hopefully we can create something to build on in coming years.