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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. 2003. I don't think many genuine enthusiasts deemed Oracle favourites before the racing started this time around either.
  2. If you look at the teams that have "lost" the cup in recent history then Oracle are at the head of the pack. 1987 Australia showed they could organise a party but not a defence (4-0) 1995 Conner taking another team's boat and is still shit. (5-0) 2003 Team New Zealand were just cringe worthy. Hola, blue bucket broken mast etc.(5-0) 2010 Alinghy bought a knife to a gun fight. (2-0) In fact Oracle and Conner back in 1983 are the only loosing defenders ever to have won a race in the AC that they lost.
  3. very poorly by comparison.
  4. Its all about the system, without the cyclors the only thing on that list that would have been possible is the foils. Even the foils may have been useless without constant trimming by Tuke. Side question how long before kiwi's start calling Tuke "Herbie" ? would have already happened in an Aussie team.
  5. Assuming Lazza bows out who will fund the next US team and almost as importantly will they employ any seppos? For bonus points who is more likely to be driving a boat at the next event? Jimmy or Dean?
  6. I know less than 0 about this sort of thing but why would they still have the trigger on the gun? Even photographers use remote shutter release so they don't cause the camera to move.
  7. I think the kiwis learnt last cup that the only way you can know a race will be the last one is when the score is 6 all.
  8. boat shows in Australia don't make commercial sense for most powerboat manufactures lttle own sailing boat manufactures. If you ask most the exhibitors they're only there because the competition is.
  9. You're taking the piss but ironically the next cycle is far more Aussie team friendly than the last. I think the Oatleys expected all the Aussies in the fleet (who they'd basically funded to Olympic gold) to drop their contracts and rush to sail for 'Stralia. Consenses seems to be that if Oracle loose they're out, If ETNZ loose they're out and there is a 50:50 chance or Artemis being back. That frees up a huge pool of Australian talent to build a team around. Especial when you include Fresh and co from the Oracle design team. Assuming ETNZ with you can be sure they'll take steps to minimize the cost of competing. Now all you need is a rich Australian that gives a shit (and that is the hard bit).
  10. now climb out one window across the roof and in another while the mrs goes around a corner. That is called a gybe. No wonder Outteridge ended up in the water.
  11. I think if oracle win it will be the same boat. If ETNZ win i think (hope) it'll be a new rule written around the same platform. ie the current boats are fully compliant but there are more avenues to experiment if wanted. Teams should only be allowed to own 4 hulls (2 boats) at any time and boats from this cycle can be raced by any nationality without CIC restrictions. Boats bigger than 30' and smaller than 60' considered surrogates and factored into 2 boat allowance. Just needs some form of restriction stopping people building a string of boats and putting a chainsaw through the ones they don't want.
  12. I actually got the feeling that Artemis were sailing better than ETNZ they just had the slower platform. All series, the races Artemis won were head out of the boat races. I think the lack of talk on ETNZ may prove problematic if Oracle are close in speed. Which is interesting as in theory the pedals should be freeing up a tactition.
  13. when we were living in NZ i remember (who knows if its true) hearing that at the time Steve Williams (at the time Tiger Woods's caddy).was NZs top paid sports person.
  14. I'm sure 50 people will correct me if I'm wrong... Isn't the back section of the wing free with regards to rules with the exception of a maximum area? If this is the case there was actually nothing stopping the teams building a strong and light wind specific wing the same as they have done with the foils.
  15. All the part breakages were 100% the fault of the teams and their designers. they could have gone heavier and stronger but chose not to.