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  1. high tension 36

    There was one of these called Live Wire based in Dun Laoghaire (Ireland) when I was a kid. It was a fast boat and I always thought it was cool as fk.
  2. Halfton Classics

    A noble cause, but in this case I'd settle for some race reports from the event taking place in Kinsale this week. http://www.halftonclass.com/
  3. Halfton Classics

    First day today. Results here: http://results.kyc.ie/2017/halfton17os.html Anyone racing who can give us a report?
  4. Westerly Anarchy

    Any update Roger?
  5. Thanks! Sailmaker's on hols. Headboard is approx 10cm. Roach is medium. Did you use the roach measurement points for your approx number or some kind of roach fudge factor? Edit - pic of the sail here if it helps: https://cloudup.com/cJyNzTV0w19
  6. I want to calculate the area of my mainsail in square metres. I have the following from my IRC cert (in metres): P: 8.05 E: 3.14 MUW: 0.65 MTW: 1.18 MHW: 2.01 Can anyone give me a formula to work out the total area of the sail? ORC have one but it has extra measurement points and my maths is too shonky to adapt it unfortunately - see "mainsail and mizzen" on this page: http://www.orc.org/index.asp?id=17
  7. Westerly Anarchy

    Bump. Had a chance to get back to it yet Roger?
  8. Race org question

    Okay thanks all. The time limits thing is interesting although we have a sheet of 50 possible courses so not sure how it would be worded. I think the point of making sure everyone knows and accepts the rules of the game in advance is a good one, and we'll work on a solution that takes care of that.
  9. Race org question

    Yes.Simple, effective but sadly not likely to satisfy. The complaint is that the person making the decision to shorten course could advantage their boat / disadvantage another.
  10. Race org question

    That's my answer but apparently it's not good enough. Sigh.
  11. Race org question

    Sometimes we start races from our club line. Due to the nature of the sailing area the fleet loses both visual and radio contact with RO in the hut. There are no support boats. The area is tidal and the wind has a habit of shutting down so we often need to shorten the course and finish at a particular buoy as we'd never make it back to the club line. In the past there's been an assistant RO in one of the racing boats who has made the call and radioed the rest of the fleet to let them know. Boats have then taken their own times at the finish buoy (it's a friendly class with low drama levels). Now we're being told by the club that our system is no good as it leaves the race committee open to requests for redress as the guy making the call is on one of the boats which is actually racing. They want us to do something which complies with the RRS and is not open to question (aiming to prevent people protesting the committee - although no one has ever done that). So question for anyone with more experience of race org than me. Is there a way to do this fairly and practically that would satisfy the people who like the books with the dense writing and the many many clauses?
  12. Hustler SJ32 - tell me what you know

    Thanks for the info. I've raced against a 30 a fair bit but never seen the cabin. There's one locally so am going to try and have a look in it later in the week. There was only 12 SJ32s built and it seems the info is very thin on the ground no matter what you search for. As I said I know the 30 is a go-er on IRC based on a former competitor. Just don't know about the 32 but if the meaningful numbers are similar as you say then there's a chance it might also work.
  13. Has anyone got experience racing one or regularly racing against one, preferably on IRC? Looking for comments on how it might do in club racing and local regattas against a mixed fleet including Impalas, Dehler 34s, J105 etc. I'm familiar with the SJ30 and would be happy to take one racing in this company - the SJ32 has caught my interest as it offers a bit more space down below but information on competitiveness seems hard to come by.
  14. Westerly Anarchy

    Yep, looks like a yucky job. I have only done a little interior grinding (re-tabbing bulkheads) and it's a horrible job. Why do boatbuilders smear their interiors with chalky crap? The boat I did had carpet glued over that and the glue had crystallized into hard globs that tended to tear the sanding discs. Of course none of it had any structural properties worthy of the name. FB- Doug Glue grinding -That was my 2007 Doug, whilst theboat was still in the yard - i set about about cleaning all the vinyl off the inside of the boat, cleared the local motor factors out of 'tar remover' solvent after reading somewhere it got the glue residue off , which it did but also got totally baked on the stuff, forgot to open the hatches, found myself slumped on the saloon floor laughing my arse off, got with it eventually. FWIW i always thought Westerly's approach to headlining was Einsteins insanity definition made real, 12000 boats built from '64 to '00 and everyone fitted with foam-backed vinyl and everyone of them sagged then fell down, its so well known a problem that it has its own name - 'The Westerly Droop'. Maybe I'm missing something here.... is that a chainplate on top of the portlight? I don't see the chainplate obscuring the window in the interior shots, is the windowframe structural? Un-reinforced chain plates were a standard feature of British boat building! AFAIK that is literally it, no backing. They probably added a couple of extra layers of CSM. That's your legendary "brick shithouse" build quality right there. My terrible French boat on the other hand has hefty rods connecting the back of the chainplates to a large frame glassed into the hull. No problem winding in the necessary rig tension in this froggy death trap.
  15. Westerly Anarchy

    Ironic that one of the members actually doing major work on an iconic UK boat gets banned from YBW. Says a lot really. SA may have more swearing / banter but people are actually a lot nicer on here. YBW members give lots of great advice but it's often delivered in an odd way where people are trying to one-up the other contributors. Shows the difference between a heavily moderated and lightly moderated forum, and it's no surprise that lighter moderation (SA) works better providing you're not an uptight armchair admiral.